[Albion] Why is Dunk consistently overlooked by England?

[Stat Brother]

Yes. They are younger, better footballers

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Come off it.

For the next tournament Dunk will be 28 - some might say prime.

Are you suggesting Mings who is just 18 months younger than Dunk will be past his sell by date at the end of this season?

Lewis will have had 3 full seasons of Premier League football actually defending, not something Stones can claim.
The last of which will be played as captain.

Keane is a walking liability.
Maguire is just a big forehead not fit to lick VVD's boots.

Dunk, like just about every other centre back, also isn't fit to go near Virgil's boots, but he can hold his head high in the company of everyone else.

 

[Skaville]

He’s just not quite good enough. It’s as simple as that

 

[Miximate]

But he doesn’t play for a top half club (till we get going) and there is a reason for that...

He may do come January

 

[Stat Brother]

He’s just not quite good enough. It’s as simple as that

I'm not sure on that, I prefer to make the same point, slightly differently:-

'He's not obviously better than 4 or 5 other players'.


Times past and times future, LD would be a shoe in for a run of England caps, but right now the same case can be made for to many players.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Hopefully Southgate will be very embarrassed tonight as the MoD pundits highlight how Dunk kept Kane in his pocket all match.

 

[Skaville]

I'm not sure on that, I prefer to make the same point, slightly differently:-

'He's not obviously better than 4 or 5 other players'.


Times past and times future, LD would be a shoe in for a run of England caps, but right now the same case can be made for to many players.

Really? I can’t think of that many times over the past few years when Dunk would have got a run. The competition now is pretty average yet he still can’t get games. I love him, he’s brilliant for us but he seems to have a poor game a little too often

 

[Stat Brother]

Really? I can’t think of that many times over the past few years when Dunk would have got a run. The competition now is pretty average yet he still can’t get games. I love him, he’s brilliant for us but he seems to have a poor game a little too often

Are you suggesting Mings, Maguire Keane Stones et al don't have poor games a little too often?

That's my point, none of them are actually trophy lifting good, (an attempt to dodge the phrase 'world class') and I believe is plenty good enough to be mentioned in the same breath.

By the end of this season his centre back CV will have:-

- 28 years old.
- 3 years in Premier League.
- 1 year club captain.
- 2 very different formations.
- (at least) 3 regular and rotating centre back partners.

All wrapped up consistently high defensive statistic ratings - headers, challenging, passing, etc.

The only 'failing' I can see is goals scored, but that's not exactly his job, is it?

 

[Stat Brother]

Yep definitely not good enough for England.

 

[Icy Gull]

If he keeps playing like he did today his day will come

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

He was magnificent today, at his imperious best. We got to see his full range of abilities- tackles, blocks, headers, positioning, clearances, calmness and range of passing. Outstanding performance.

 

[DFL JCL]

He was magnificent today, at his imperious best. We got to see his full range of abilities- tackles, blocks, headers, positioning, clearances, calmness and range of passing. Outstanding performance.

And even headlocks

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[jakarta]

Hopefully Southgate will be very embarrassed tonight as the MoD pundits highlight how Dunk kept Kane in his pocket all match.

Will be an interesting watch tonight I agree...

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Mind blowing that Micheal Keane is considered better than him. Dunk is better in every single aspect of the game.

 

[borat]

Dunk is fantastic at a few very crucial things - winning headers, blocking shots and long range passing.

From an international call up perspective, hes not the quickest and when he's defending one on one against a tricky player he can sometimes come up short - e.g The attacker makes him go to ground with a feint or dummy shot.

 

[Weststander]

Mind blowing that Micheal Keane is considered better than him. Dunk is better in every single aspect of the game.

Everton fans online rarely/never rave about Keane as being imperious. Almost to a man, they want him out of their first 11.

I rate Southgate, but he has blind loyalty on this one.

I thought his revolution included ditching that basis for selection, unlike his predecessors?

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I like Southgate but the fact he keeps picking Mings and Keane ahead of Dunk does not reflect well on him.

 

[Diablo]

embarrassed the England captain today !!

 

[Weststander]

Dunk is fantastic at a few very crucial things - winning headers, blocking shots and long range passing.

From an international call up perspective, hes not the quickest and when he's defending one on one against a tricky player he can sometimes come up short - e.g The attacker makes him go to ground with a feint or dummy shot.

You’ve also described Keane

 

[borat]

You’ve also described Keane

Not saying Keane is the answer. From the little of what Ive seen - both Tomori and Mings look a better bet than Keane.

 

[Weststander]

Not saying Keane is the answer. From the little of what Ive seen - both Tomori and Mings look a better bet than Keane.

Agree about Tomori. We need his pace, with Maguire lacking that.