albionfan37
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Webby won’t lose his spot after one season mate
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[Albion] Why is Dunk consistently overlooked by England?
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Webby won’t lose his spot after one season mate
Skaville
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I’m not so sure. Ben White looks a more complete player to me. Webster could play left but Burn is thriving and his dominance in the air is important. Could also see one of them challenging Montoya for right back.
It’s certainly an embarrassment of riches
albionfan37
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Duffy could be sold to a Southampton type dunk top 6 side if he keeps his form up then we’d have webby burn white ostigard with o’hora and Roberts pushing them
Skaville
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Southampton?! You really don’t rate Duffy do you?! He was our player of the season last year ahead of Dunk and is the best player in Ireland
albionfan37
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It’s not that I don’t rate him he’s a decent defender in a team that needs a dominant cb he could just as easily go to Newcastle I could even see Celtic
Skaville
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Anyone bar the big six and Wolves for me. There will be loads of clubs monitoring the situation with big Shane right now.
I know they aren't having a great season so far but this is a little harsh on Spurs.
Johnny RoastBeef
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Seems odd that so many are down on Duffy at the moment. What he lacks in elegance and passing ability he more than makes up for in other areas.
In the game against Norwich he played on the left, which to me sugests Potter doesnt think he and Montoya are a good fit. Burn is a better defender, leaving him less exposed and always available to help out when Shane needs him.
I think this is a smart move.
In the game against Norwich he played on the left, which to me sugests Potter doesnt think he and Montoya are a good fit. Burn is a better defender, leaving him less exposed and always available to help out when Shane needs him.
I think this is a smart move.
Papa Lazarou
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Duffy will be fine as long as he is happy with the 'role' he needs to play. He is the solid, less mobile member of the central 3. His passing remit is to get the ball to Dunk, Burn, Montoya or Stephens, nothing more than that. Leave the fancy / risky passes to those better suited.
Defensively, he's also the one who doesn't bomb forward, he remains solid and secure; plus he's good at set pieces. As his performance showed v Norwich, the system can perfectly well accommodate him, and allow him to flourish.
As I'm still all bent out of shape about negativity on here, I'll continue in the same style.
All we get is what he can't do and how he doesn't fit.
Completely oblivious to what he can do and not only what he brings to the team, but for his future, what he brings to the top of all defensive metric charts.
As already said, there isn't a team who wouldn't be improved by Duffy.
He just happens to be playing for the only team that has gone out of it way to hoover up all the CB talent.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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Duffy plays with his heart so is always 100%. Not as gifted as some but solid and does offer an alternative style which we will need at times. His heading his probably the best in the team.
A tad harsh.
The lad is still only 24 and has played ,what, a mere 8 Premiership games.
He will continue to learn and has received high praise from GP , who admits mistakes will be made at the back because of the way he has asked his players to play.
I am confident he will be a great success at the club and wish him well in recovering from injury.
Meanwhile, I am sure Shane Duffy will do an excellent job for the team.
As others have said, we are really lucky to have such a decent pool of players to choose from.
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Lifelong Supporter
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Webster needs to cut out some of his mistakes. White has yet to play in the Premier League. Duffy is good, very good, is proven and is an international player of repute.
Seasider78
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The only way Lewis will force himself into an England start is to move to a more fashionable club. It’s how it works with England
I love Shane Duffy. He was comfortably my player of the season last year and I have every confidence he will do well for us whenever he plays.
However, I also think Webster is quality and will probably end up with more caps than Dunk. Yes currently Duffy is probably still better at the basic clearing/heading/tackling etc, but I think in time Webster will develop this. He is 3 years younger and in his first Premier League season. We’ve conceded 2 fewer goals this season than last season after 11 games so he’s clearly doing something right defensively though.
Overall, Webster offers more to the team with his distribution and ability to carry the ball forward which is what Potter wants. Whilst Webster will make the odd mistake with this, the higher risk for greater reward will ultimatey benefit us in the long run I believe.
However, I also think Webster is quality and will probably end up with more caps than Dunk. Yes currently Duffy is probably still better at the basic clearing/heading/tackling etc, but I think in time Webster will develop this. He is 3 years younger and in his first Premier League season. We’ve conceded 2 fewer goals this season than last season after 11 games so he’s clearly doing something right defensively though.
Overall, Webster offers more to the team with his distribution and ability to carry the ball forward which is what Potter wants. Whilst Webster will make the odd mistake with this, the higher risk for greater reward will ultimatey benefit us in the long run I believe.
blue-shifted
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They certainly will. And he'll be fine. Nothing wrong with his passing. He doesn't have Dunk's range and can't dribble like Webster can, but he can play a quick 5 yard pass under pressure from an opposition press. That's all he has to do. I don't ever remember seeing Duffy caught in possession.
blue-shifted
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If you're a Brighton fan, surely you should be a fan of all our players? Especially our current player of the season.
I'm an unashamed Duffy fan. I'm an unashamed Webster fan. Both bring different qualities, neither have let us down. You don't have to do one of our players down to argue the other is a better selection.
blue-shifted
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The mistakes Webster has made, has been nothing to do with his passing or dribbling out of defence. These have been immaculate
It’s the fundamentals of defending, in particular not losing his striker, where he’ll need to improve to get into the England squad. No criticism at all of the lad. A young player and his first season at this level. He is always going to be learning on the job.
If you could make an composite of Duffy and Webby you’d have some player
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Dan Burn...
Silverhatch
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To answer the OP’s question: Dunky plays for one of the most under the radar clubs in the PL and an England manager takes a (big) risk picking a centre half from a (genuinely) unfashionable club. We know our history and the direction of travel of the club under Bloom but they’ll still be people out there that think we play at Withdean and play attritional football. We’re also
managed by an ‘oddity’ who makes his players sing at fan concerts. It takes a huge amount of time to change a narrative in this (any) country. Dunk also needs to have HUGE self-belief to get in a England dressing room and think “**** It” I’ll break Rashford’s legs if he tries to take the piss again in training.
managed by an ‘oddity’ who makes his players sing at fan concerts. It takes a huge amount of time to change a narrative in this (any) country. Dunk also needs to have HUGE self-belief to get in a England dressing room and think “**** It” I’ll break Rashford’s legs if he tries to take the piss again in training.