Seasider78
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Well where are they then?
Tell you what you give me the name of someone who we have turned away that is better than the current board and I will gladly admit I am wrong
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Why is Dick Knight letting the team go down the tube
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Well where are they then?
Tell you what you give me the name of someone who we have turned away that is better than the current board and I will gladly admit I am wrong
Barnham Seagull
Yapton Actually
100% agree and with the original post, spot on.
Dick has shafted McGhee who acheived so much with no backing and Wilkins who was a life long servant and loved the albion, but seems to love Adams who LEFT for greater "things". Im fed up with people banging on about how much Adams loves the club, does he?
Barrel of Fun
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Is he letting the team go down the tube?
Seemingly Wilkins did not toe the line of the club and favoured a player and agent when it came to contract negotiations. If that was the case, then the hands of the board were forced into removing him from his post. I was bitterly disappointed as I thought we were making decent progress and playing some decent football. He did seem to be learning fast.
Dick and the board have appointed a manager that was hugely popular in his previous spell, but we have hit a sticky patch. Things will surely improve? Whilst Adams has his limitations, I think we can turn this around. We should not be entertaining the idea of sacking him before November is out.
We seem to be investing money, so I think 'letting the team go down the tube' is a bit far fetched. Nothing is won or lost before Christmas.
Seemingly Wilkins did not toe the line of the club and favoured a player and agent when it came to contract negotiations. If that was the case, then the hands of the board were forced into removing him from his post. I was bitterly disappointed as I thought we were making decent progress and playing some decent football. He did seem to be learning fast.
Dick and the board have appointed a manager that was hugely popular in his previous spell, but we have hit a sticky patch. Things will surely improve? Whilst Adams has his limitations, I think we can turn this around. We should not be entertaining the idea of sacking him before November is out.
We seem to be investing money, so I think 'letting the team go down the tube' is a bit far fetched. Nothing is won or lost before Christmas.
Seasider78
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So here we go on the Dick Knight and the Wilkins bandwagon once more.
Hunting 784561
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I think they would be made to feel extremely unwelcome - remember the frosty reaction at the time from DK to the rumours regarding David Gold ?
Anway, its a stupid argument to say 'name them' . If I put my house or business on the market, I've got absolutely no idea who the potential buyer is or will be, but you know that eventually someone will come along and buy.
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I have a problem with this contract negotiations thing. If true then misconduct would have been used and therefore saving the club a fortune. It might be true but just seems to be an easy answer especially the way they waited until the end of the season when Adams was available during the January transfer window
Barnham Seagull
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Shame he could'nt back McGhee when we were in the championship, he would have loved the money we have spent in the last year.
Shame the board wouldnt back Wilkins and build a decent squad, seems more than happy enough to pay for a large amount of loan signings who will all be on more wages than we probably normaly pay.
Seasider78
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I am sorry that has got to be one of the most ridiculous comments I have read on here!! I am sure as with any business if the right investor came in the club would snap their hands off.
I don't share the same memory of the Gold situation as you either as I remember DK simply commenting that there was nothing to tell as he had not had any offer from David Gold and he was not an option at the time as he still had investment in Birmingham.
I am sure when the right investment comes in the club will both welcome them and DK will step into a behind the scenes role but until then I for one fully back this board in running the club and delivering the stadium they have all worked to deliver.
Spiros
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Dick Knight has always said that he will listen to any REASONABLE offers for the club and over time the balance of ownership has been moving away from him such that all of these decisions have to be made by the board and not by Dick alone. What concerns me is tha fact that the Blooms are getting their grubby little hands on the club again - the only living link with the wonderful years of Stanley, Archer and Belotti. If you really do want Knight to go then I'd be careful what you wish for if I were you
Hoops Seagull
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I think that things would help if Dick Knight actually told us his reasons for sacking Dean Wilkins - nothing has ever been said why? - Why is it people that leave this club are never able to speak and say why they leave?
Hunting 784561
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I dont want DK out - very far from it - but the club really does need a very large injection of cash.
There must be enough wealthy investors out there willing to come in - this club must now RIPE for inward investment with a brand new 22.5K stadium on the way...
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I do agree that the lack of financial support for McGhee was scandalous, but I thought it was very much the Bloom's who were controlling the purse strings.
I am not confident when it comes to loan signings and breaking the wage structure. There is a difference in paying a proportion of someones wages for a month, two months, a season as opposed to breaking the wage structure for a player with a two/three year contract and the ramifications of that.
Hoops Seagull
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How do you know that?
Knotty
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How will that help? It's none of our business, but if we were told, some would agree and some wouldn't, just like now, so nothing would change.
It's amazing how many people THINK they know what goes on behind the scenes and who does what etc.
Then there are those who don't know but think we are entitled to know. We're not.
It's no different to anything you buy - food, clothes, petrol, beer - you wouldn't expect the Chairman of any of those companies to tell the world why he has sacked an employee so why a football club? We are customers, not shareholders and the only thing we are entitled to know are the company accounts filed with Companies House.
And for those calling for DK to be sacked, if he is not an employee, he can't be sacked. I don't know if he is an employee or not. As a shareholder, his shares can't be taken from him and as a director, he could be voted off the board by the other directors.
So you want to get rid of him? Then you need to find an investor with enough money to take over (assuming it's at a price that DK can't refuse) and you need to be sure that he will always employee the perfect manager and players to satisfy your needs.
Simply really.
In the meantime you are a customer who has the right not to buy the product if you don't like it, and if you are a STH you knew when you bought it that nothing is guaranteed in football.
The good youth products created whilst he was part of the youth squad, and apparent offers from bigger clubs (Newcastle if i remember rightly) to be part of their youth set up.
Bad manager? Unable to handle contract negotiations, poor man manager as stated by players who worked under him, and some poor work in the transfer window. Also, he couldn't handle the press at all, listening to his interviews was truly cringe worthy at times.
Evidence enough?
Yes it f***ing has been said! For christ's sake I'm fed up with hearing people say this.
In the fans forum, DK said that he and the board felt that Dean Wilkins was not the right man to take this club forward in the long term. He even said that if we managed to fluke getting into the playoffs and getting promoted, he STILL would have sacked him.
Lets not forget, that Wilkins still hasn't got another job.
NMH
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Great, and you'd probably remain "chuffed" if we went down this season, because at least "we got rid of Wilkins".
If you were on the Albion board, I'd rather be rid of you.
NMH
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For one thing, Wilkins was Brighton all the way and nurtured many of those players, so just upping sticks to manage 'n.e. other f.c.' wouldn't be as simple as that. For those who maintain he didn't have the dressing room - how did he get results from those lads he nurtured for all that time, without having their respect throughout? Senior players like Nicky Forster didn't slag him off afterwards, and were surprised he was ousted - so the indications were that he had the players on his side..... but not the board.
ANY manager who's been fired from the job after less than two seasons, in his first ever attempt at management, would struggle to just change club, or be headhunted, much vaunted .
If I had my wishes, his 'another job' would be right back here at BHAFC - with the proven knowledge that he was doing something right.