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Why doesn't FIFA just shove it.



Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Yes let's isolate us from the football world, play all the home nations regularly over the year and imagine the winners as champions of the world. The equivalent of taking the ball home and crying because the other boys won't let you do what you want to do.
A good plan and avoid the World Cup match fixing in Russia.
 








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Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,122
Faversham
We do the poppy debate every year and I have no wish to antagonise everyone so . . . .

We have played football for 60 years without commemorating the fallen with poppies on England shirts so why make an issue of it now?

If FIFA let this one through then it is a free for all for any 'non political, non commercial' issue. In the UK it could be national cat week., In Italy it could be national anti abortion week. In Serbia it could be national anti Jew week.

Back to poppies, for the last week I have seen none on the street, yet every fecker on the tellybox is wearing one. That is . . . . weird.

Stop Press, England have decided their footy boys will defy Fifa and wear pippies. My guess is Fifa may ban us from the Euros . . . . because they see us for what we are . . . critics from afar who do not engage (rarely do we send reps to meetings) yet we rebel. Into the well we go, with nobody on our side. <sigh>.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,265
We seem to be becoming the political equivalent of Millwall - no one likes us, we don't care.

Theresa May is going out of her way to create a 'them and us' climate.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,008
Pattknull med Haksprut
Theresa May brought up the issue of governance and ethics in FIFA. Remind me why the last England manager lasted 67 days?


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indy3050

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2011
1,394
Wear the poppies, **** Fifa and accept punishment. Bollocks to that World Cup anyway, bollocks to international football.
 
















clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
I'm interested in what sort of political statement you think wearing a poppy conveys?

Unfortunately it has become politicised and that's the fault of those on both side of the debate. Hard to defend FIFA isn't it.. but I can understand why they have reservations.
 






alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Well it depends on your political and ideological standpoint.

You could argue....

Soldiers kill people, sometime innocent civilians who get caught in the cross fire.
Their involvement in conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan actually makes us less safe.
They therefore contribute far less to society than nurses.

Nurses save lives on a regular basis.
They contribute far more to our society and therefore deserve more benefits.

Its entirely political.
It's not political at all , soldiers do what politicians tell them to do , you are an utter cock.
 


Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
Theresa May brought up the issue of governance and ethics in FIFA. Remind me why the last England manager lasted 67 days?


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Yes, but that was about a hundred times less than it took them to get rid of the guy at the very top.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
This is a fund for impoverished currently serving nurses, not a fund for people who were once a nurse 50 years ago and need a stairlift or are involved in a car crash which is totally unrelated to their nursing career.

I looked it up & it does cover retired nurses. Otherwise I wouldn't have used it as an example.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Unfortunately it has become politicised and that's the fault of those on both side of the debate. Hard to defend FIFA isn't it.. but I can understand why they have reservations.

Really , why didn't they have reservations over this ?

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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
We do the poppy debate every year and I have no wish to antagonise everyone so . . . .

We have played football for 60 years without commemorating the fallen with poppies on England shirts so why make an issue of it now?

If FIFA let this one through then it is a free for all for any 'non political, non commercial' issue. In the UK it could be national cat week., In Italy it could be national anti abortion week. In Serbia it could be national anti Jew week.

Back to poppies, for the last week I have seen none on the street, yet every fecker on the tellybox is wearing one. That is . . . . weird.

Stop Press, England have decided their footy boys will defy Fifa and wear pippies. My guess is Fifa may ban us from the Euros . . . . because they see us for what we are . . . critics from afar who do not engage (rarely do we send reps to meetings) yet we rebel. Into the well we go, with nobody on our side. <sigh>.

England wore the armband with a poppy in 2011, when FIFA said it couldn't be on a shirt, so there is a precedent. This time FIFA is saying the armbands can't be wron either. The English, Welsh & Scottish FAs, are saying we will wear the armbands.

If FIFA want to punish us, our answer would be why wasn't it wrong 5 years ago?
 


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