Why does Bloom escape criticism on here?

[beorhthelm]

Thanks for that, I have always suspected that he makes most of his money through gambling. Still don't know how easy it is to hide that sort of money from the public.

thanks for what - the quote says its "rumoured". a journalist saying its rumoured means he cant back it up with anything, he hasnt got a scooby doo really. we can summise that he has great wealth, but it is very odd that it should be so well hidden, especially when he openly spends out so much on Brighton.

 

[glasfryn]

Because it's a sellers market and the good ones were holding off for as good a deal as possible (for example Lewis Grabban).

not so sure he would have been the answer, we could have maybe arranged a swap plus cash deal for Wood or Nugent , but hey ho we now have a forward line of midgets, lets hope they start to gel and score goals soon

 

[livewire11]

He has a betting company so yes he does make his money through gambling - #facepalm

 

[andy1980]

thanks for what - the quote says its "rumoured". a journalist saying its rumoured means he cant back it up with anything, he hasnt got a scooby doo really. we can summise that he has great wealth, but it is very odd that it should be so well hidden, especially when he openly spends out so much on Brighton.

It actually says those close to him have estimated that he is worth over a billion. I don't know how easy it is to hide all that money, that is why I hoped El Pres was going to say there are several examples of people hiding that much money (but was later found to have the money).

 

[andy1980]

He has a betting company so yes he does make his money through gambling - #facepalm

Everyone says hes main income is from property.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

A certain previous chairman possibly got too involved, especially on the player recruitment side. I'd prefer TB to be here more often and to be more involved in the day-to-day running of the place and delegate less. But if he wants to spend half the year in Australia, I guess he's earned the right.

 

[Brighton Mod]

The term exploiting does not need to imply financial gain, you can exploit something in whatever way you seen fit in order to enhance your own personal situation - that does have to be for financial gain, it might just be because you want to do it and can actually afford to.

To criticise him when he has made such a substantial financial investment just because the team is going through a bad patch is fickle in the extreme.

I don't see it as fickle, many forecast this would happen and it has, should we drop to division two would it still be fickle to criticise him, many would do it with their feet and currently many are. We've had three great but different seasons at the Amex and anyone who doubts that the standards have dropped is in denial. TB heads up, if not on a daily basis, the management team which in my opinion has fallen short in many areas not at least the coaching and team management recruitment, player recruitment, car parking ffs, catering, merchandising and the spin machine that goes silent when its bad news and then trots out inane drivel on vanilla subjects. There is room for improvement alround because we are as we are told,'customers' and can take our money elsewhere if we are not happy.

 

[Goldstone1976]

A few people on this thread have speculated that since it's not publicly obvious how much wealth TB has it must therefore mean that he's not as wealthy as some assume, meaning that he has either taken a loan out to provide the funds to the club or has secret, silent backers.

Leaving aside the fact that in order to get a £200m (say) loan from the bank you'd have to provide security for at least that amount and pay the interest - both of which would mean that he's seriously wealthy; and also leaving aside the fact that no investor would put up £200m without equity in the club, there is a fundamental flaw in the starting premise.

It is perfectly possible to have tremendous wealth and keep it quiet.

I have worked for two Chairmen of separate companies, both of whom would comfortably make the Sunday Times rich list in elevated positions. One of them would comfortably make the top 30. Yet, I guarantee that no-one here would have heard of him. If you google him, you can find no photos of him at all. The only text you can find are his utterances on financial statements of his various companies. He's guarded his privacy very carefully - the only time I quizzed him as to why, he said it was to protect his family. In particular, he said he didn't want his daughter kidnapped for a ransom.

 

[maltaseagull]

I can think of about 200,000,000 quite good reasons.

Agree completely.

Good answer.

 

[rippleman]

I don't think TB escapes criticism at times it's just that those of us who remember the dark days weigh up the club's current plight against where we would be now without TB's investment. No magnificent new stadium, no training academy...even no Gus.. and in all likelihood no promotion playoffs in past two years.

But I have to say that if I was in the fortunate position to have been able to invest over 200m in the club, then I would be in my office 24/7 managing the finances of the business. I wouldn't delegate...particularly when the losses are increasing and appear to be running out of control. And, as ever, with poor performances and a relegation scrap ahead, history tells us that attendances will fall...and the financial position of the club will just get worse.

I don't think much more needs to be said on the playing side of the club. Without doubt, Gus was an attraction for quality players to come to BHAFC. I would love to see someone in the Director of Football position who had a bit of a clue what they were doing. Preferably someone from within the club or an ex player / manager. Somebody who could attract quality players to the club and not stick us with endless dross and midgets!

TB is above all a fan. Those he has appointed to run the club for him aren't. I'd love the opportunity to see how things would change if TB sailed the ship himself.

I appreciate that it's never going to be easy for any business owner to have to admit that they got it wrong with the senior appointments that they made. But if TB did that now, before things get even worse, we'd forgive him. Of course we'd forgive him. Have a clearout of the lame ducks now, save their salaries, appoint replacements who, like him, love the club, and let's start again.

 

[London Irish]

Absolute rubbish.

Bloom employs people to run and play for the club. They are accountable end of. So far I think he's done a pretty good job, although as I said earlier the jury is still out on Hyppia as performances haven't been great to date.

But to be called politically correct and compared to a Russian serf for supporting a lifelong fan who has pumped £250m into the club and is a lifelong fan is frankly insulting.

And I should have added that a bucket load of sanctimony and faux outrage always accompanies and reinforces the political correctness

 

[Gritt23]

There is certainly an air of him being above reproach because he has spent so much money, and to an extent it's true, and he has earned, well bought, that loyalty and affection. However, we shouldn't be blind to the fact that he makes mistakes, everyone does, so why shouldn't he. Criticising him doesn't mean we don't appreciate everything he's done for the club, and people shouldn't be made to feel they are being disloyal if they say "Nah, he's got that wrong. FFS."

But it's unhealthy to fail to assess what is going on, ignoring mistakes being made because where we are now is so much better than where we were, and therefore "Bloom is always right". That just always makes me think of Animal Farm, and that's not a good thing.

 

[symyjym]

I don't think TB escapes criticism at times it's just that those of us who remember the dark days weigh up the club's current plight against where we would be now without TB's investment. No magnificent new stadium, no training academy...even no Gus.. and in all likelihood no promotion playoffs in past two years.

But I have to say that if I was in the fortunate position to have been able to invest over 200m in the club, then I would be in my office 24/7 managing the finances of the business. I wouldn't delegate...particularly when the losses are increasing and appear to be running out of control. And, as ever, with poor performances and a relegation scrap ahead, history tells us that attendances will fall...and the financial position of the club will just get worse.

I don't think much more needs to be said on the playing side of the club. Without doubt, Gus was an attraction for quality players to come to BHAFC. I would love to see someone in the Director of Football position who had a bit of a clue what they were doing. Preferably someone from within the club or an ex player / manager. Somebody who could attract quality players to the club and not stick us with endless dross and midgets!

TB is above all a fan. Those he has appointed to run the club for him aren't. I'd love the opportunity to see how things would change if TB sailed the ship himself.

I appreciate that it's never going to be easy for any business owner to have to admit that they got it wrong with the senior appointments that they made. But if TB did that now, before things get even worse, we'd forgive him. Of course we'd forgive him. Have a clearout of the lame ducks now, save their salaries, appoint replacements who, like him, love the club, and let's start again.

Agree, the key words are "in a fortunate position". After Oscar resigned I seem to remember Bloom admitting he was distant last season, and wanted to take on a more hands on approach this current one but I have seen any evidence of this yet.

I can see that employing Barber and Burke is a logical move, but they have been given strict ridged rules to follow without the benefit of any fexability to this when needs must by TB.

Of course there is a chance that Bloom has got it spot on and we will rise from the ashes after FFP kicks in, but the failure in the last January transfer window cost us a great chance of promotion and we are where we are today spending good money on bargain basement players who have cost us more than what we saved last season. Which is in fact a false economy.

TB came along at the right time and has done a good job, but to not invest at a critical moment is more of a gamble than a small overspend on a good investment.

 

[Lower West Stander]

I don't see it as fickle, many forecast this would happen and it has, should we drop to division two would it still be fickle to criticise him, many would do it with their feet and currently many are. We've had three great but different seasons at the Amex and anyone who doubts that the standards have dropped is in denial. TB heads up, if not on a daily basis, the management team which in my opinion has fallen short in many areas not at least the coaching and team management recruitment, player recruitment, car parking ffs, catering, merchandising and the spin machine that goes silent when its bad news and then trots out inane drivel on vanilla subjects. There is room for improvement alround because we are as we are told,'customers' and can take our money elsewhere if we are not happy.

But we aren't customers are we. We are fans. Yes we can walk, yes we can criticise, its our right, but the point I am making is that a fair few people on here seem to have decided the fact that we've had a bad start to the season is his fault, questioning his motivation, has he got a secret partner? has he borrowed to invest? I think if we dropped to division 2 he would question himself much more than we would.

And if we win the next 3 games, I guarantee that criticism will largely disappear.

 

[Diego Napier]

I don't think TB escapes criticism at times it's just that those of us who remember the dark days weigh up the club's current plight against where we would be now without TB's investment. No magnificent new stadium, no training academy...even no Gus.. and in all likelihood no promotion playoffs in past two years.

But I have to say that if I was in the fortunate position to have been able to invest over 200m in the club, then I would be in my office 24/7 managing the finances of the business. I wouldn't delegate...particularly when the losses are increasing and appear to be running out of control. And, as ever, with poor performances and a relegation scrap ahead, history tells us that attendances will fall...and the financial position of the club will just get worse.

I don't think much more needs to be said on the playing side of the club. Without doubt, Gus was an attraction for quality players to come to BHAFC. I would love to see someone in the Director of Football position who had a bit of a clue what they were doing. Preferably someone from within the club or an ex player / manager. Somebody who could attract quality players to the club and not stick us with endless dross and midgets!

TB is above all a fan. Those he has appointed to run the club for him aren't. I'd love the opportunity to see how things would change if TB sailed the ship himself.

I appreciate that it's never going to be easy for any business owner to have to admit that they got it wrong with the senior appointments that they made. But if TB did that now, before things get even worse, we'd forgive him. Of course we'd forgive him. Have a clearout of the lame ducks now, save their salaries, appoint replacements who, like him, love the club, and let's start again.

What unbelievable rubbish! What knowledge do you have to back up such statements? It's just your poorly informed opinion.

TB is obviously an astute businessman to amass his level of wealth. He employs specialists who are considerably more qualified than him to run different aspects of his business. Being in his office 24/7 managing the finances when he could deploy more capable resources would not only be counter-productive, it would just be plain stupid. I rather suspect that he will continue with his successful modus operandi rather than your arrant nonsense.

btw, where did you get the idea that losses are running out of control? Have you not read or heard TB & the club's statements about FFP?

 

[nicko31]

TB I'm sure makes mistakes he's human, but the guy can have 200 million excuses as far as I'm concerned

 

[Brighton Mod]

But we aren't customers are we. We are fans. Yes we can walk, yes we can criticise, its our right, but the point I am making is that a fair few people on here seem to have decided the fact that we've had a bad start to the season is his fault, questioning his motivation, has he got a secret partner? has he borrowed to invest? I think if we dropped to division 2 he would question himself much more than we would.

And if we win the next 3 games, I guarantee that criticism will largely disappear.

According to Paul Barber, we are customers and this has been written down and communicated to us all on the internet and through emails to us. I agree that fans can moan and belly ache and customers have the right to redress, Paul Barber needs to understand how upsetting it was when he changed our identity. I aslos acknowledge that had been more than halfway up the table these questions wouldn't be asked. Don't despair however we are only 11 points off the play offs and in this division as we know things can change on a run of four or five results. People have questioned their 'God' before so I see it as reasonable for us to questions Mr Blooms judgement on occasions. That in itself does not take away any of the gratitude, adulation and massive thanks that he is owed by all of us and i'm sure even he would not want to live his life without questioning or challenging.

 

[Northstandite]

According to Paul Barber, we are customers and this has been written down and communicated to us all on the internet and through emails to us. I agree that fans can moan and belly ache and customers have the right to redress, Paul Barber needs to understand how upsetting it was when he changed our identity. I aslos acknowledge that had been more than halfway up the table these questions wouldn't be asked. Don't despair however we are only 11 points off the play offs and in this division as we know things can change on a run of four or five results. People have questioned their 'God' before so I see it as reasonable for us to questions Mr Blooms judgement on occasions. That in itself does not take away any of the gratitude, adulation and massive thanks that he is owed by all of us and i'm sure even he would not want to live his life without questioning or challenging.

If results and performances on the pitch were good, hardly anyone would complain about the 'customers' tag.

 

[Rookie]

According to Paul Barber, we are customers and this has been written down and communicated to us all on the internet and through emails to us. I agree that fans can moan and belly ache and customers have the right to redress, Paul Barber needs to understand how upsetting it was when he changed our identity. I aslos acknowledge that had been more than halfway up the table these questions wouldn't be asked. Don't despair however we are only 11 points off the play offs and in this division as we know things can change on a run of four or five results. People have questioned their 'God' before so I see it as reasonable for us to questions Mr Blooms judgement on occasions. That in itself does not take away any of the gratitude, adulation and massive thanks that he is owed by all of us and i'm sure even he would not want to live his life without questioning or challenging.

Upsetting, really? While I appreciate I may not be as Brighton centered as some, is upsetting really the right word.
The withdean days could never carry on, it was a cottage industry and with the Amex it was obvious things had to change and become more business like.

 

[Brighton Mod]

If results and performances on the pitch were good, hardly anyone would complain about the 'customers' tag.

As I stated in my response.