clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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Are you nuts ? They've changed the constitution and his personal opinion is worth nothing. The members want another referendum and the best you will get is a very very soft Brexit.
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[Politics] Who will be our next Prime Minister?
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Are you nuts ? They've changed the constitution and his personal opinion is worth nothing. The members want another referendum and the best you will get is a very very soft Brexit.
Behind Enemy Lines
Well-known member
My guess is that May will win tonight and battle on.
Cadiz Seagull
Grey bearded old man
I don't understand why the MP's who want May out have gone down this route now. If she wins, which I suspect she probably will, they can't challenge her for another year. Unless you have to, you should never fight a battle that you can't be resonably confident you can win.
If the meaningful vote had gone ahead and she lost heavily then that would have been a good time to call for a confidence vote. But now I think it's bad timing by the anti-Mays.
OK she may lose, or decide to resign if she nearly loses, but I suspect she will still be PM after the vote, and a stronger PM at that. Certainly you shouldn't fight a battle that is likely to make your enemy stronger, unless you really have to.
If the meaningful vote had gone ahead and she lost heavily then that would have been a good time to call for a confidence vote. But now I think it's bad timing by the anti-Mays.
OK she may lose, or decide to resign if she nearly loses, but I suspect she will still be PM after the vote, and a stronger PM at that. Certainly you shouldn't fight a battle that is likely to make your enemy stronger, unless you really have to.
cheshunt seagull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Some loathsome Alt-Right puppet with Steve Bannon's hand up their arse,set on a no-deal Brexit so they can use the chaos to deliver the ERG's real agenda.
Marshy
Well-known member
As long as its not the clowns Johnson or Rees-Mogg
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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No-one has a clue what they are doing. There is possibly a bit of let's destroy the party for the "greater good". We know when the Tories go bang, they REALLY go bang.
That group of MPs have never got over Major have they ?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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you say Major, but the issue then as now for them is Maastricht treaty.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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And you seriously believe the majority of Westminster MPs aren't conspiring to de-rail Brexit? Wow!
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cheshunt seagull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Do majorities actually need to conspire? I thought it was minorities like the ERG or Bolsheviks that had to use these tactics.
BensGrandad
New member
Anybody other than Corbyn or his cronies. I think that it could be Sajid Javid.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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No, they just can't decide what Brexit means.
macbeth
Dismembered
She will will the vote.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Trump
Are you going to apologise for being very wrong, and insulting, on the Gross thread?
clapham_gull
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Noel Edmonds
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Conspiring suggests secrecy, not sure this is particularly secretive. We always knew the house was massively in favour of remaining and still is - that is why we didn’t have a referendum for 40 years because it was always the case it would collide with our Parliamentary democracy. The referendum was advisory, our Parliament does actually have the ‘sovereign’ democratic right to go **** it, we’re staying in. Not saying they should, but that is our democracy like it or not.