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No. I haven't either.Am I a bad person for not engaging myself more in getting to know our manager more properly
But I'm sure he'll be fine with that.
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No. I haven't either.Am I a bad person for not engaging myself more in getting to know our manager more properly
Just struck me a few moments ago, when contemplating about the "archetypes" of managers we've had. Potter and De Zerbi were very distinctly different and appealed to different sorts of people and whatnot.
Maybe two months ago I was talking football at a party and got a bunch of questions that I seriously struggled to answer. "What kind of football does he play?".
The football... what is it? I don't know. I try to see patterns and stuff and I see a little bit but I'm not really sure how its supposed to work or look. It just.. is.
Hűrzeler gets yellow cards for nothing. Meanwhile the black-clad, Spanish goblin spends every match running up and down the touchline, even obstructing players, and is, seemingly, invisible to the officials.The yellow card thing for Brighton managers/coaches has been weird the last two seasons.
You have managers like Arteta, Guardiola, Silva, Dyche and Klopp in the past, who are constantly in the ears of the 4th official or outside the technical area, then ours only have to look in a funny way sometimes to get a card.
Obviously sometimes RDZ did deserve it but don't know about Hurzeler.
It's like refs want to mark the cards of the Johnny Come Lately foreigner but the old guard can't be touched.
The lad is a very shy Chelsea fan in a wheelchair. Life has been tough on him. I don't normally like talking about football on parties because it frightens the women and upsets the musicians, but for him I always make exceptions.Sounds like a shit party!
No they don't unless you've had conversations about manager personalities with them in the past.This, and do people really ask questions like that? I don’t think I’ve ever given a toss what a manager’s personality is like, or if they are interesting. If I asked my mates that question about teams they supported they’d tell me to stop being such a ****.
Do you seriously think we are going to believe you got invited to a party?Just struck me a few moments ago, when contemplating about the "archetypes" of managers we've had. Potter and De Zerbi were very distinctly different and appealed to different sorts of people and whatnot.
I started to think of a little list of their personality traits and how they differ and so forth, but when I came to Fabian Hurzeler its just... nothing. Nothing I'm annoyed about, nothing I particularly appreciate, nothing that stands out as odd or unusual. Its just...
Maybe two months ago I was talking football at a party and got a bunch of questions that I seriously struggled to answer. "What kind of football does he play?", "how's his personality", "is he interesting?" and I really struggled to give any sort of answers. I thought it was down to being stoned and wasted but now I realise I just don't have any answers.
Every time they show him in a game, he sits with a neutral face expression. Win, lose or draw. Then 30 seconds later he gets a yellow card for God knows what. Its like he once per game at a random moment tells the fourth official the worst word he can think of or something. Either way its entirely schizo and doesn't help me understand the lad.
The football... what is it? I don't know. I try to see patterns and stuff and I see a little bit but I'm not really sure how its supposed to work or look. It just.. is.
Am I a bad person for not engaging myself more in getting to know our manager more properly or does anyone else share the whole "its some guy coaching some guys in an undefined manner" vibe?
But he seems to get them for (virtually) nothing.You do get the feeling that FH cultivates being given cards and being sent to the stands because that's what he thinks big boys should do. Just seems a bit unconvincing and out of character
Like wearing an offensive haircut in a built-up area you mean?But he seems to get them for (virtually) nothing.
Come on.This, and do people really ask questions like that? I don’t think I’ve ever given a toss what a manager’s personality is like, or if they are interesting. If I asked my mates that question about teams they supported they’d tell me to stop being such a ****.
Yeah I saw some of the videos and they were all "wow, they don't have any midfield!"There were a couple of nsc threads on the subject in the summer. With youtube St Pauli videos.
Meant to be secure at the back in numbers when out of possession, the two CM’ers the lynchpin, joined by a mobile ball-playing CB in rapid attacks. Oppositions torn to shreds as threats came at them from all angles.
That was youtube. The reality, some impressive 45 minutes eg Spurs second half, mixed with dopey/inept/chaotic stuff such as Stains second half.
Incredibly hard for our squad to maintain those glimpses of a high level for entire games. Need to find a way to make us hard to score against when we’re not in the ascendancy.
Indeed, there were only two girls and one cup, apparently.Sounds like a shit party!
Yeah, but Robert Fripp is an oddball hermit type ‘scientist’ guitarist… all technique and contrived composition, trying really (too?) hard to stretch boundaries … or discover some kind of musical equation… sadly lost on someone who just likes a f***ing RIFF.That makes him sound like the Robert Fripp of football management.
Which would be a cool comparison if it withstood any sort of contact with reality.
Have you seen his disciplinary record as a player? The Beast of Bogenhausen. The Butcher of Bayern. The Psycho of Pipensreid. The Hatchetman of Hoffenheim.Yeah I saw some of the videos and they were all "wow, they don't have any midfield!"
It turned out to be true but I'd like to hear the rest of the story... ok, they had no midfield, AND THEN WHAT?
But I understand Hurz the manager better than Hurz the person. Slightly. I don't even know the basics of the Hurz persona.
To compare:
I know Roberto De Zerbi comes from a middle class family in an industrial town, where he learnt that through hard work you can say you're better than everyone else because your money and more glory than your neighbour. In Mompiano he was shaped by the Italian sun and the backdrop of the climbable unclimbable mountains. He's a cocky confident wanker who likes a challenge. I get it. I even get why people like or don't like it.
Graham Potter? Carved out of greystone in some Birmingham working class ghetto. Shy quiet lad who felt mistreated by the British football establishment. He hated the primitive football he was asked to play in the 90s, hated how the managers made the players feel and hated that he couldn't handle it and let his very promising career get away. He's now on a quest to show that you can be a kind humble man, play attacking possession football and still have success and make sure young talents don't end up like him.
Those are the cores things about these men. Its the outline of them and their motivations. You can say its a typical number 10 and a typical left back.
Hurz? I haven't got a clue. If I saw him in the streets I'd think he was a youtuber or yuppie or something.
Here you go:Yeah I saw some of the videos and they were all "wow, they don't have any midfield!"
It turned out to be true but I'd like to hear the rest of the story... ok, they had no midfield, AND THEN WHAT?
But I understand Hurz the manager better than Hurz the person. Slightly. I don't even know the basics of the Hurz persona.
To compare:
I know Roberto De Zerbi comes from a middle class family in an industrial town, where he learnt that through hard work you can say you're better than everyone else because your money and more glory than your neighbour. In Mompiano he was shaped by the Italian sun and the backdrop of the climbable unclimbable mountains. He's a cocky confident wanker who likes a challenge. I get it. I even get why people like or don't like it.
Graham Potter? Carved out of greystone in some Birmingham working class ghetto. Shy quiet lad who felt mistreated by the British football establishment. He hated the primitive football he was asked to play in the 90s, hated how the managers made the players feel and hated that he couldn't handle it and let his very promising career get away. He's now on a quest to show that you can be a kind humble man, play attacking possession football and still have success and make sure young talents don't end up like him.
Those are the cores things about these men. Its the outline of them and their motivations. You can say its a typical number 10 and a typical left back.
Hurz? I haven't got a clue. If I saw him in the streets I'd think he was a youtuber or yuppie or something.
<sigh>Yeah, but Robert Fripp is an oddball hermit type ‘scientist’ guitarist… all technique and contrived composition, trying really (too?) hard to stretch boundaries … or discover some kind of musical equation… sadly lost on someone who just likes a f***ing RIFF.
You know, maybe you’ve got a point… it started well in the court of the former crimson king… I guess this is our starless period … bleak jazzy directionless jamming with no obvious beginning or end…
A normal Saturday night then?Indeed, there were only two girls and one cup, apparently.
I dig this RIFF from the Starless period.Yeah, but Robert Fripp is an oddball hermit type ‘scientist’ guitarist… all technique and contrived composition, trying really (too?) hard to stretch boundaries … or discover some kind of musical equation… sadly lost on someone who just likes a f***ing RIFF.
You know, maybe you’ve got a point… it started well in the court of the former crimson king… I guess this is our starless period … bleak jazzy directionless jamming with no obvious beginning or end…