[Albion] Who should replace Potter ? - The poll

[Neville's Breakfast]

Tell the people who feel they need to keep bringing it up - and yes they do - doesn't mean I still cannot be a fan of a manager (or a player for that matter).

As for the King - I would prefer a participatory democracy (i.e. football run by the fans, club staff and the players).

Oh well, I tried.
The King IS dead, LONG LIVE the King
Maybe we will see the return of BHADebs soon to sing the praises of Dean Wilkins. She had a similar obsession to yourself and Swansman but was from an earlier era.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Oh well, I tried.

Maybe you should address that to people who feel the need to keep harping on about the past.

I am not on this forum because Hughton happened to be manager a couple of years ago - I could find better things to be doing with my time.

Let the guy's legacy stand on its merit and move on - then I will have no reason to respond.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Maybe you should address that to people who feel the need to keep harping on about the past.

I am not on this forum because Hughton happened to be manager a couple of years ago - I could find better things to be doing with my time.

Let the guy's legacy stand on its merit and move on - then I will have no reason to respond.

But you are missing the point. Legacies of public figures are often re-evaluated with the passage of time. Happens to many politicians. The real point is that it is really not that important and you are not obliged to defend Hugbton’s legacy. It will be one thing to you and something different to others. Personally I don’t give a damn about an ex Brighton manager other than as a name in our history books.

 

[LamieRobertson]

For those hoping the new managers name (what new manager?) would begin Po.....well he’s gone to PSG

 

[rogersix]

Maybe you should address that to people who feel the need to keep harping on about the past.

I am not on this forum because Hughton happened to be manager a couple of years ago - I could find better things to be doing with my time.

Let the guy's legacy stand on its merit and move on - then I will have no reason to respond.

why are you soooooooooo needy?

 

[rogersix]

Maybe you should address that to people who feel the need to keep harping on about the past.

I am not on this forum because Hughton happened to be manager a couple of years ago - I could find better things to be doing with my time.

Let the guy's legacy stand on its merit and move on - then I will have no reason to respond.

can't you see the insanity in each one of those three things you have typed?

 

[WATFORD zero]

For those hoping the new managers name (what new manager?) would begin Po.....well he’s gone to PSG

Well according to my EXTENSIVE poll, that's 9 NSCers upset then

 

[b.w.2.]

And now we get the insults - I am not the one who keeps bringing up the topic.


Yep - Forest are in the relegation places in a very competitive division - Hughton has a really tough job on his hands - a bloated squad with 35 players and no striker. Like Brighton, they are struggling to score goals - despite playing attacking football. I think he will turn things around - but the Forest owners are quite fickle so we will have to wait and see if he is given the opportunity.

Anyway -

Brighton's current form - LDDDL
Forest - LWDDD

Since Hughton took over at Forest - 4W, 7D, 7L - 14G - 19 GA

In the same time - Brighton - 1W, 7D, 4L - 10GF - 15GA

Are you seriously trying to compare the difficulty of winning a game in the Championship with doing so in the Prem!? If so, you are a joker.


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[b.w.2.]

No - the budget was bigger - £70m - and it was a budget built on top of two other seasons in the PL. And yes - the point total was bigger - by ONE point.

Was the football boring - yes it was - out of necessity given the squad he had available. We have no idea what Hughton would have done with the playing style with another year and another £70m spent on players. Potter's teams have largely been entertaining to watch and I have enjoyed watching them. But to be honest - in the game against Arsenal the pretty passing was boring as f*ck. and we still have to see if Potter can get the team out of the funk they are in and keep the club in the PL with his pretty passing game.

As for giving youth a chance - people here were screaming that Hughton wouldn't play Connoly (and the same people now want Connolly loaned out to a Championship - or L1 - club) and Alzate (who had a broken back) and complained that White was out on loan - yet Potter sent White out on loan again last season. These players are two years older and apart from White are still not getting significant playing time. Who was Hughton supposed to play?

As I pointed out elsewhere - in the last couple of weeks at Forest Hughton has dropped Knockhaert to play an 18 year-old kid and is playing a 19 year-old at CB who had all of one game under his belt when Hughton arrived at Forest. The majority of his team at Forest are 23 or under.

As usual, you defend the indefensible in your inaccurate budget figures, your refusal to accept that Chris’s football was incredibly dull, and NOT out of necessity, as Potter has proved, and your denial that Chris NEVER gave yoof a chance. Carry on living in your deluded revisionist Hoots wonderland. The rest of us moved on with his justifiable sacking. [emoji112]


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[Jolly Red Giant]

Are you seriously trying to compare the difficulty of winning a game in the Championship with doing so in the Prem!? If so, you are a joker.

It can be just as difficult to win a game in Conference North as it is in the PL - there is a reason why teams are in different divisions - it has to do with the ability of each team. You seem to think that a team in the relegation zone in the Championship should find it easier to beat a team mid-table in the Championship - than a team in the PL beat a team two places above them. football doesn't work like that.

As usual, you defend the indefensible in your inaccurate budget figures, your refusal to accept that Chris’s football was incredibly dull, and NOT out of necessity, as Potter has proved, and your denial that Chris NEVER gave yoof a chance. Carry on living in your deluded revisionist Hoots wonderland. The rest of us moved on with his justifiable sacking.k

What is inaccurate about the numbers

Brighton had a bottom 3 budget for the first two seasons - now it is a bottom 6 budget.

As for transfers - Maupay £20m, Trossard £18m, Webster £20m, Mooy £5m loan and then £5m permanent, Lampety £3.5m - 5 new first team players to add to Connolly and Alzate who came into the squad.

Was Hughton's football 'incredibly dull' when he managed Brighton in the Championship?
What about his Forest team - are they 'incredibly dull'?
Were Newcastle 'incredibly dull' when he managed them in the PL?

Potter had a half a dozen new first team players at his disposal - if Hughton had the same number of new first team players then there is every possibility that he would opened up his tactics - like he had at Newcastle, like he did with Brighton in the Championship and like he is now with Forest. Unfortunately we will never know.

As for 'NEVER' giving 'yoof' a chance - which 'yoof' do you suggest he should have played?

White - who Potter sent out on loan (and which out of Dunk or Duffy would you have dropped?)
Alzate - who was out for months with a broken back
Connolly - who people are now saying is no good and should be loaned out to a Championship club
And all of these players are 2 years older and more mature than when Hughton was here.

As late as the last couple of weeks Hughton have proven he will play kids if they are good enough - he dropped Knockheart to play an 18 year-old and dropped a CB to play a 19 year-old who had one game at Forest under his belt. Forest are now unbeaten in 5 with 2 wins and 3 draws and he is starting to turn the corner with the team. If Molumby (another kid) does join Forest on loan this week he will significantly improve the team given the injuries to a couple of very important midfielders.

So you can crow all you want about how shite Hughton was and how 'incredibly dull' his team was - but the reality is that Hughton used what he had available to the best advantage and knew how to get the best out of what he had available. The fact that Bloom wanted to change things does not take away from the success that he had at Brighton.

Now Hughton is gone - so forget about re-writing history and enjoy the ride with Potter - hopefully it won't to turn out to be a long bumpy journey for the rest of the season.

 

[sparra]

This has taken a lot of time and effort, so no taking the piss please

Youre still here! Incredible. im honoured. Greetings from the real WATFORD O

 

[b.w.2.]

It can be just as difficult to win a game in Conference North as it is in the PL - there is a reason why teams are in different divisions - it has to do with the ability of each team. You seem to think that a team in the relegation zone in the Championship should find it easier to beat a team mid-table in the Championship - than a team in the PL beat a team two places above them. football doesn't work like that.


What is inaccurate about the numbers

Brighton had a bottom 3 budget for the first two seasons - now it is a bottom 6 budget.

As for transfers - Maupay £20m, Trossard £18m, Webster £20m, Mooy £5m loan and then £5m permanent, Lampety £3.5m - 5 new first team players to add to Connolly and Alzate who came into the squad.

Was Hughton's football 'incredibly dull' when he managed Brighton in the Championship?
What about his Forest team - are they 'incredibly dull'?
Were Newcastle 'incredibly dull' when he managed them in the PL?

Potter had a half a dozen new first team players at his disposal - if Hughton had the same number of new first team players then there is every possibility that he would opened up his tactics - like he had at Newcastle, like he did with Brighton in the Championship and like he is now with Forest. Unfortunately we will never know.

As for 'NEVER' giving 'yoof' a chance - which 'yoof' do you suggest he should have played?

White - who Potter sent out on loan (and which out of Dunk or Duffy would you have dropped?)
Alzate - who was out for months with a broken back
Connolly - who people are now saying is no good and should be loaned out to a Championship club
And all of these players are 2 years older and more mature than when Hughton was here.

As late as the last couple of weeks Hughton have proven he will play kids if they are good enough - he dropped Knockheart to play an 18 year-old and dropped a CB to play a 19 year-old who had one game at Forest under his belt. Forest are now unbeaten in 5 with 2 wins and 3 draws and he is starting to turn the corner with the team. If Molumby (another kid) does join Forest on loan this week he will significantly improve the team given the injuries to a couple of very important midfielders.

So you can crow all you want about how shite Hughton was and how 'incredibly dull' his team was - but the reality is that Hughton used what he had available to the best advantage and knew how to get the best out of what he had available. The fact that Bloom wanted to change things does not take away from the success that he had at Brighton.

Now Hughton is gone - so forget about re-writing history and enjoy the ride with Potter - hopefully it won't to turn out to be a long bumpy journey for the rest of the season.

You are rewriting history. Not me. And, yes, all of my statements about the ar$e end of Hoots tenure are true. You need to move on. When you have, then I will ease off on you. Until then expect your ridiculously biased views to be challenged.

Oh, and AC should definitely have been given a chance by Chris. He wasn’t; Chris was too busy attempting his infamous 10-0-0 formation and repeatedly losing.


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[rogersix]

It can be just as difficult to win a game in Conference North as it is in the PL - there is a reason why teams are in different divisions - it has to do with the ability of each team. You seem to think that a team in the relegation zone in the Championship should find it easier to beat a team mid-table in the Championship - than a team in the PL beat a team two places above them. football doesn't work like that.


What is inaccurate about the numbers

Brighton had a bottom 3 budget for the first two seasons - now it is a bottom 6 budget.

As for transfers - Maupay £20m, Trossard £18m, Webster £20m, Mooy £5m loan and then £5m permanent, Lampety £3.5m - 5 new first team players to add to Connolly and Alzate who came into the squad.

Was Hughton's football 'incredibly dull' when he managed Brighton in the Championship?
What about his Forest team - are they 'incredibly dull'?
Were Newcastle 'incredibly dull' when he managed them in the PL?

Potter had a half a dozen new first team players at his disposal - if Hughton had the same number of new first team players then there is every possibility that he would opened up his tactics - like he had at Newcastle, like he did with Brighton in the Championship and like he is now with Forest. Unfortunately we will never know.

As for 'NEVER' giving 'yoof' a chance - which 'yoof' do you suggest he should have played?

White - who Potter sent out on loan (and which out of Dunk or Duffy would you have dropped?)
Alzate - who was out for months with a broken back
Connolly - who people are now saying is no good and should be loaned out to a Championship club
And all of these players are 2 years older and more mature than when Hughton was here.

As late as the last couple of weeks Hughton have proven he will play kids if they are good enough - he dropped Knockheart to play an 18 year-old and dropped a CB to play a 19 year-old who had one game at Forest under his belt. Forest are now unbeaten in 5 with 2 wins and 3 draws and he is starting to turn the corner with the team. If Molumby (another kid) does join Forest on loan this week he will significantly improve the team given the injuries to a couple of very important midfielders.

So you can crow all you want about how shite Hughton was and how 'incredibly dull' his team was - but the reality is that Hughton used what he had available to the best advantage and knew how to get the best out of what he had available. The fact that Bloom wanted to change things does not take away from the success that he had at Brighton.

Now Hughton is gone - so forget about re-writing history and enjoy the ride with Potter - hopefully it won't to turn out to be a long bumpy journey for the rest of the season.

have you worked out yet why you're not welcome on the forest board?

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Oh, and AC should definitely have been given a chance by Chris. He wasn’t; Chris was too busy attempting his infamous 10-0-0 formation and repeatedly losing.

Tell me when Connolly should have started - was it while he was out for months with injury or while he was sitting on the bench in League 1 at Luton ?

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

have you worked out yet why you're not welcome on the forest board?

Have you worked out yet why I have no interest in posting on the forest board?

 

[Bry Nylon]

Tell me when Connolly should have started - was it while he was out for months with injury or while he was sitting on the bench in League 1 at Luton ?

Have you been booted off the Forest forum already?

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Have you been booted off the Forest forum already?

Have you?

 

[rogersix]

Have you worked out yet why I have no interest in posting on the forest board?

i assume they call a c&nt a c&nt

 

[vagabond]

Bless you JRG you’re certainly a passionate Hughton fan. No question about it.

Thing is I don’t know why you’re so determined on setting a record straight, we all loved the guy too. But we’ve moved on.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Give the noise created by the Potterout contingent, I'm staggered that the best options they can vote for are Swansman and Eddie sodding Howe