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Who is or was the greatest Rock band of all time?
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jakarta
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Clearly Led Zep are the Marmite of Rock, love or loathe.
Personally its love......
Personally its love......
aolstudios
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fair play - but I love to loathe them
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Ha ha. When I saw how my post had come out I was kinda expecting someone to post that. But I thought whoever it was might have got my username right though
You still have said who they are? even tried to Google them but nothing.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
The arrow was supposed to point to my avatar, not my username
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
- Jan 3, 2012
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fair play - but I love to loathe them
maybe loathe is a bit strong, but I would hold them as the most self-indulgent, overblown, pretentious, derivative load of drivel ever to come out of a recording studio. I think they had volume controls on their amps which went up to 11 .....
Turn it down.
aolstudios
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nice
don't have a problem with loud music per se mind. I've been to some great gigs that've been superloud. But with led zep the volume, like the excess, the squawking, the lyrics & the bloody runes ffs 
just seemed to be covering up what was at the heart of the band - absolutely nothing. They were spinal tap, without the laughs
NMH
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I understand that the amplification used in the creation of their early albums was not more than 25watts, I even heard that LZI was recorded using 15watt tube amps, one mic a foot away, and another in the top corner of the room to get the right acoustic effect or reverberation and presence. Tube amps get the warmest tone and great punch to suggest 'power'*
Page used, for most of the first LP and probably the ensuing ones, a Fender Telecaster that he'd had with The Yardbirds. Big Jim Sullivan loaned him another guitar for parts of the recording.
*it makes sense of how tube amplification and analog hardware for playback is superior. All of what we listen to from that era of music has been recorded on tube amps and analog equipment - naturally it sounds best played back on same.
- Jan 3, 2012
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QUOTE=aolstudios;4802668]nice don't have a problem with loud music per se mind. I've been to some great gigs that've been superloud. But with led zep the volume, like the excess, the squawking, the lyrics & the bloody runes ffs just seemed to be covering up what was at the heart of the band - absolutely nothing. They were spinal tap, without the laughs[/QUOTE]
[I think we are of the same mind. Don't mind loud, and particularly appreciated your "squawking".
don't have a problem with loud music per se mind. I've been to some great gigs that've been superloud. But with led zep the volume, like the excess, the squawking, the lyrics & the bloody runes ffs just seemed to be covering up what was at the heart of the band - absolutely nothing. They were spinal tap, without the laughs[/QUOTE][I think we are of the same mind. Don't mind loud, and particularly appreciated your "squawking".
Tyrone Biggums
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I shall cast the first vote for The Doors.
I prefer my rock with meandering keyboards and sex on a stick vocals.
I prefer my rock with meandering keyboards and sex on a stick vocals.
NMH
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Bear in mind that the smaller the amp, the less volume is required before they start giving distortion.
Almost throughout the first 3 albums at least, the guitar sound is pretty much the same on the electric tracks.
Some legend about the amps, was that Page used a 'super-Beatle', or 15Watt Selmer on some recordings, then a Rickenbacker Transonic that had been repaired with unmatched bit and pieces here and there, so the strain some of the parts were under made it kind-of a hybrid!
Led Zeppelin toured in early days using Rickenbacker amps, which Page complained about at the time as 'awful'
Afforded a bit more luxury for time and quality by the time they got around to LZIII, Marshall amps came into the picture for some recordings - as well as a bit more use out of the Gibson Les Paul
Almost throughout the first 3 albums at least, the guitar sound is pretty much the same on the electric tracks.
Some legend about the amps, was that Page used a 'super-Beatle', or 15Watt Selmer on some recordings, then a Rickenbacker Transonic that had been repaired with unmatched bit and pieces here and there, so the strain some of the parts were under made it kind-of a hybrid!
Led Zeppelin toured in early days using Rickenbacker amps, which Page complained about at the time as 'awful'
Afforded a bit more luxury for time and quality by the time they got around to LZIII, Marshall amps came into the picture for some recordings - as well as a bit more use out of the Gibson Les Paul
aolstudios
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QUOTE=aolstudios;4802668]nice
[I think we are of the same mind. Don't mind loud, and particularly appreciated your "squawking".[/QUOTE] & she's frying a stairway to heaven
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nice
When they were getting started, and before that Song Remains The Same posturing, they managed to get across quite a lot with the barest essentials....if people could accept their low-effort hair-fronted raw-cousness without much structure. History often gets perspective influenced by what happens later!
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Thus Led Zep 4 and the sudden rocketing to World fame and fortune disguises the fact that they were no more rock legends than Family or Jethro Tull at the time.
For quality of tight, well delivered electric blues music there were many good-if-not-better bands - TYA, Climax Chicago Blues Band, Taste, Savoy Brown, Paul Butterfield, John Dummer Band, Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation and Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac to name a few.
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