[Albion] Who do you want to become our new manager?

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Who will become our next manager?

  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 102 15.5%
  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 161 24.5%
  • Rob Edwards

    Votes: 38 5.8%
  • Vincent Kompany

    Votes: 42 6.4%
  • Steve Cooper

    Votes: 15 2.3%
  • Kjetil Knutsen

    Votes: 53 8.1%
  • Liam Rosenior

    Votes: 25 3.8%
  • Adam Lallana

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Gareth Southgate

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Sami Hyypia

    Votes: 14 2.1%
  • Mark McGhee

    Votes: 16 2.4%
  • Micky Adams

    Votes: 16 2.4%
  • Other (please state)

    Votes: 166 25.3%

  • Total voters
    657


elwheelio

Amateur Sleuth
Jan 24, 2006
1,957
Brighton
AC Milan now have a vacancy as well. That could suit RDZ well. The merry go round is dizzying.
Seems that Fonseca is already lined up for that one. I feel for RDZ as he's clearly brilliant, but David Ornstein recently implied that there may be a prevailing sentiment that he's quite difficult to work with. I wonder if this is putting off prospective owners who don't much fancy the hassle.
 






MJsGhost

Oooh Matron, I'm an
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Jun 26, 2009
5,025
East
Regarding Potter, the history lesson comment was annoying, but the one that looks most ill-judged now is the reference to “having it easy” at Brighton. How could we seriously welcome back someone who is here for the easy life.
I don’t think that sort of person appeals to Barber or Bloom.
That's not really the full context of what he said though is it, and the context here is important.

He was referring to his choice at the time Chelsea made their approach - he had the option to stay, extend his contract and reap the benefits of the hard work already put in (he had a great relationship with TB/PB, a squad that knew his methods and were getting results, credit in the bank with supporters...)
The alternative was to take on the calamity club, with mental owners and twattish fans, many of whom didn't want him there and a squad full of prima donnas that chewed up managers.
So yeah, If he'd wanted the easy life, he'd have stayed (there is also the matter of a truck load of cash involved too of course).

If many of the comments on here are to be believed, coming back would be far from the easy life anyway (which is OK, because as he has previously said, he's not into making decisions just for the 'easy life')
 
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Javeaseagull

Well-known member
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Feb 22, 2014
2,808
I don’t particularly want Potter back but if he is appointed I will continue to fully support the club. That is far more important to me than throwing the toys out of the pram.

Actually I would find it very funny after the money Chelsea paid for him to get him back for nothing. It would probably bring a knee-jerk bid from Chelsea to gazump us anyway.
 


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,724
Shoreham Beaaaach
Hughton was fired because he wasn't capable of any better than scraping above relegation every year.

Potter was achieving the club's stated aim of top 10 before he left.

That's the difference.

Hughton showed loyalty and stuck with us to the end of his capabilities.

Potter is a Judas who jumped ship, with the entire crew, for a bigger bag of gold leaving us in the shit.

Yes we got a better manager but not only had that absolutely zero to do with Potter, but it could have worked out much worse.

Another difference.
 




OzMike

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2006
13,280
Perth Australia
1.Potter was the problem.
2.Thought Potter was an idiot to go (it was NEVER going to end well)
3.Coaching teams leave with managers
4.In his third year, his team was just starting to click
5. Potter knows he made a fortune.
6. Tony will never reappoint him, he would have made his money with the Chelsea pay off
7. The way he left was a slap in the face for Tony and he will never have dealings with him, or any of the others that left, again.
Corrected for you.
 




sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,267
Hove
If Bloom and Barber are so short of ideas that we have to get Potter then I despair.

If we are really that far down the list then I'd rather get Rosenior... or Lallana... or Calde.... or make Pascal Player-Manager.
 




Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,367
That's not really the full context of what he said though is it, and the context here is important.

He was referring to his choice at the time Chelsea made their approach - he had the option to stay, extend his contract and reap the benefits of the hard work already put in (he had a great relationship with TB/PB, a squad that knew his methods and were getting results, credit in the bank with supporters...)
The alternative was to take on the calamity club, with mental owners and twattish fans, many of whom didn't want him there and a squad full of prima donnas that chewed up managers.
So yeah, If he's wanted the easy life, he'd have stayed (there is also the matter of a truck load of cash involved too of course).

If many of the comments on here are to be believed, coming back would be far from the easy life anyway (which is OK, because as he has previously said, he's not into making decisions just for the 'easy life')
Not quite. His comment in full was:

"If I wanted a nice easy life, I could have quite easily stayed working at Brighton in the Premier League and signed a new contract and been absolutely OK. And I wouldn't have had too many questions about myself or pressure or sacking or anything like that, but the reason to come here, one of the reasons to come here as there were many, it's a fantastic football club, potentially one of the best in the world that can compete for any major trophy."

To be fair to Potter, that was probably a fair and honest assessment of his situation when he left us. However, De Zerbi then arrived and upped expectations. He was not satisfied and insisted that the players and the board believe that we were also a football club that could compete for major trophies. We can't now fall back on someone who has made it quite clear that a certain level will suffice for Brighton. Of course TB will be realistic about our ambitions, but he will want someone who has some ambition, not for himself, but for the club.

I was happy with Potter's work while he was here. He did tremendous stuff in quickly adapting the squad to play in a different way. There were long testing periods where results didn't match performances, but let's remember that the absolute decimation of Man Utd that had Ronaldo laughing was under Potter, not RDZ. Upon leaving, it became apparent that the 'know your history' chippiness was perhaps a result of complacency. He, like Gus Poyet, believed that there was a ceiling for this club, but where Poyet tried to force Tony's hand to break it, Potter just accepted it as inexorable.

Although his assessment of our place in the food chain was probably realistic, having now had the inspirational RDZ, we can't go back and settle. Paul Barber has spoken of how De Zerbi challenged everyone in the club to go further and how managing this was difficult, but totally worthwhile. He and Bloom now know that at this stage in the plan, if we are going to continue to over-acheive, they need to appoint a manager that they need to rein in, not one that they have to follow behind jabbing with a cattle prod.
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,724
Shoreham Beaaaach
That's not really the full context of what he said though is it, and the context here is important.

He was referring to his choice at the time Chelsea made their approach - he had the option to stay, extend his contract and reap the benefits of the hard work already put in (he had a great relationship with TB/PB, a squad that knew his methods and were getting results, credit in the bank with supporters...)
The alternative was to take on the calamity club, with mental owners and twattish fans, many of whom didn't want him there and a squad full of prima donnas that chewed up managers.
So yeah, If he'd wanted the easy life, he'd have stayed (there is also the matter of a truck load of cash involved too of course).

If many of the comments on here are to be believed, coming back would be far from the easy life anyway (which is OK, because as he has previously said, he's not into making decisions just for the 'easy life')

But that's still not the full context is it? It's one of several disparaging comments about Brighton and/or the fans (History lesson/people are entitled to their opinion etc...), him jumping ship and this is from someone who (apparently) has a degree in Emotional Intelligence.

Compare RDZs comments about the fans and his consistent and persistent praise of us even after the end, the way BHAFC and RDZ parted company to Potters comments about the fans and the way he left.

Football is an EMOTIONAL outlet for me and many others. It's a passion. I don't feel the same watching F1 or Wimbledon.

Yes this has brought back some of the bitterness of Potter leaving with the suggestions that he, even remotely, could come back.

I have absolutely zero bitterness towards RDZ.

Why? I have no idea, I just know how I feel. I would eventually get behind a Potter BHAFC, but it would be at the expense of some of my passion for the club.

Again Why? Fvck knows.
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,724
Shoreham Beaaaach
Not quite. His comment in full was:

"If I wanted a nice easy life, I could have quite easily stayed working at Brighton in the Premier League and signed a new contract and been absolutely OK. And I wouldn't have had too many questions about myself or pressure or sacking or anything like that, but the reason to come here, one of the reasons to come here as there were many, it's a fantastic football club, potentially one of the best in the world that can compete for any major trophy."

To be fair to Potter, that was probably a fair and honest assessment of his situation when he left us. However, De Zerbi then arrived and upped expectations. He was not satisfied and insisted that the players and the board believe that we were also a football club that could compete for major trophies. We can't now fall back on someone who has made it quite clear that a certain level will suffice for Brighton. Of course TB will be realistic about our ambitions, but he will want someone who has some ambition, not for himself, but for the club.

I was happy with Potter's work while he was here. He did tremendous stuff in quickly adapting the squad to play in a different way. There were long testing periods where results didn't match performances, but let's remember that the absolute decimation of Man Utd that had Ronaldo laughing was under Potter, not RDZ. Upon leaving, it became apparent that the 'know your history' chippiness was perhaps a result of complacency. He, like Gus Poyet, believed that there was a ceiling for this club, but where Poyet tried to force Tony's hand to break it, Potter just accepted it as inexorable.

Although his assessment of our place in the food chain was probably realistic, having now had the inspirational RDZ, we can't go back and settle. Paul Barber has spoken of how De Zerbi challenged everyone in the club to go further and how managing this was difficult, but totally worthwhile. He and Bloom now know that at this stage in the plan, if we are going to continue to over-acheive, they need to appoint a manager that they need to rein in, not one that they have to follow behind jabbing with a cattle prod.

Excellent post and summary. Put much better than I did.
 


Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
19,656
Indiana, USA
One of my top choices would be American born, Fabian Hurzeler, as said on another thread. As a player, product of Bayern Munich youth academy and assistant manager of Germany’s U18 and U20.

Houston, Texas!!

Nothing good comes from Texas, and my brother is living in Texas.
 












pigmanovich

Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Mar 16, 2024
1,551
London
Franck Haise is now available after leaving RC Lens. Was he already on our list, is he any good, its hard to keep up at the moment.
Just looked up how Lens did under him, and it's not shabby: Haise took over midway through the 2019-20 Ligue 2 season, in which Lens finished 2nd, one point behind champions Lorient; they finished 7th in Ligue 1 in 2020-21 and 2021-22; 2nd in 2022-23, qualifying for the Champions League, one point (again) behind champions PSG; and 7th this past season, qualifying for the Conference League playoff round. Lens finished 3rd in their Champions League group behind Arsenal and PSV, one point behind PSV, and dropped down to Europa League, where they lost the knockout round playoffs to SC Freiburg 3-2.

Worth noting that in that promotion season he only oversaw two league matches as the remainder of the season was called off due to Covid.
 






Beanstalk

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2017
3,030
London
Franck Haise is now available after leaving RC Lens. Was he already on our list, is he any good, its hard to keep up at the moment.
He was "allegedly" on our list in 2022... What he's achieved since then has been impressive.

He is very good, the stuff he's done at Lens is nothing short of remarkable. Taking them from a pretty unattractive Ligue 2 side to within a point of pipping PSG to the title is sensational. Finished 3rd in a competitive UCL group this season (ahead of Sevilla) but got knocked out to Freiburg in the Europa after conceding 2 goals in injury time to flip the scoreline on it's head.

He tends to play with 3 at the back, with two of the CBs playing as roving drivers into midfield (something Igor and Webster are very good at already), though he has described his style as tactically flexible based on the players at his disposal. His team's tend to be good defensively, and quite fun going forward, but it may be that his side relied on the outstanding quality of Loïs Openda last season where he hasn't been able to get the same tune out of Elye Wahi this year and it has affected the amount of goals Lens have scored.

Whilst it is not the thrilling appointment I'd have hoped for following on from a manager like RDZ, it would be a great fit, and a soft yes from me.
 


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