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[Football] Who do you want to be England manager?
- Thread starter Triggaaar
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Plus he's had an MI and is well past it.
Which full international team has Potter managed?
Brian Fantana
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I'm presuming the Poyet years passed you by then?
The Fifth Column
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Got to be Potter surely? He can change the England setup from having Palace bias to having Brighton bias
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Was interesting to read comments from caicedo re Poch (run, run, run), so not him please... Wuld like Tuchel for a laugh (a winner though) but tbf I wouldn't be displeased with Potter.
I would like an England manager who has a idea how to set up against different opponents and who can change tactics and personnel during a game to effect change.
Not a manager who has an ideal first eleven and who will change tactics to accommodate the chosen players, and even play them out of position to get them on the pitch.
For that reason I suspect Potter can achieve what was beyond the capabilities of Southgate.
Not a manager who has an ideal first eleven and who will change tactics to accommodate the chosen players, and even play them out of position to get them on the pitch.
For that reason I suspect Potter can achieve what was beyond the capabilities of Southgate.
ATFC Seagull
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Carsley turned down the Ireland job a few months back. Could indicate he thought he was likely to get the England job?
Could also be that the Ireland job is shit.
Could also be that the Ireland job is shit.
ukpolska
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Potter is the clear favourite according to many reports and I wonder if he has already been told by the FA that he is in line for the job as he has turned down job after job, some of them really good opportunities.
hart's shirt
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I agree with Barney Ronay.
"...the Football Association should go all out to hire Jurgen Klopp. Klopp might not want it. He must surely have competing plans. He is perhaps too big for the job. But he would be absolutely perfect.
Two points lead to this conclusion. The England manager is still the single most culturally and economically important figure in English football. But the English, despite being obsessed with managers, also don’t make managers. There is nobody in domestic football equipped to carry this on. Eleven elite Spanish club coaches had players in the two squads on Sunday, including the dominant tactical figure of the past 25 years. English football was represented by two; Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe, neither of whom have won a major trophy.
And second, what happens now is crucial. There is a suggestion the FA may not be able to afford Klopp on the current budget. Come off it. The England team made between €5m and €8m from reaching this final. Spend it on a proper manager. Get a bespoke sponsor. Get Tesco to pay for it.
Klopp is, like Southgate, a culture builder, a process guy. He has the warmth and charisma to recharge the stage. He’s like Southgate’s cooler, taller, much more successful cousin. But he’s also a proven elite modern coach. Klopp is also Total Premier League, has nurtured English players, has understood and progressed the tactical culture. He might like the hours. There’s no need to live all the time in the country. Let him wear a baseball cap. Make it work.
In return England have a settled culture and good young players. What they need is warmth, fun and energy, plus that degree of coherence and in-game control that has proved to be just out of Southgate’s reach. In many ways Klopp is almost too good. Can you hire rock‑star-Father-Christmas for a role that is essentially the nation’s PE teacher?"
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...an-championship-gareth-southgate-jurgen-klopp
"...the Football Association should go all out to hire Jurgen Klopp. Klopp might not want it. He must surely have competing plans. He is perhaps too big for the job. But he would be absolutely perfect.
Two points lead to this conclusion. The England manager is still the single most culturally and economically important figure in English football. But the English, despite being obsessed with managers, also don’t make managers. There is nobody in domestic football equipped to carry this on. Eleven elite Spanish club coaches had players in the two squads on Sunday, including the dominant tactical figure of the past 25 years. English football was represented by two; Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe, neither of whom have won a major trophy.
And second, what happens now is crucial. There is a suggestion the FA may not be able to afford Klopp on the current budget. Come off it. The England team made between €5m and €8m from reaching this final. Spend it on a proper manager. Get a bespoke sponsor. Get Tesco to pay for it.
Klopp is, like Southgate, a culture builder, a process guy. He has the warmth and charisma to recharge the stage. He’s like Southgate’s cooler, taller, much more successful cousin. But he’s also a proven elite modern coach. Klopp is also Total Premier League, has nurtured English players, has understood and progressed the tactical culture. He might like the hours. There’s no need to live all the time in the country. Let him wear a baseball cap. Make it work.
In return England have a settled culture and good young players. What they need is warmth, fun and energy, plus that degree of coherence and in-game control that has proved to be just out of Southgate’s reach. In many ways Klopp is almost too good. Can you hire rock‑star-Father-Christmas for a role that is essentially the nation’s PE teacher?"
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...an-championship-gareth-southgate-jurgen-klopp
A preference for a manager who won't want the job.
I've got a preference for Rachel Riley - but she won't want that job either!
Thanks for the update but I'd already read that in the opening post.
Pochettino. Although culturally I can't see that happening. He is a top coach and by all accounts a bit of an Anglophile, but I'm not sure how his fellow countrymen would feel. Plus of course there would be a depressing number of English people who wouldn't want to see the job go to any foreigner, let alone an 'Argie'.
- Nov 11, 2009
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I read about Carlsey yesterday, but just listened to Tom Barclay, the Suns chief football correspondent talking about him on Hawksbee and Jacobs and he sounds pretty decent, has managed the younger players and has won a trophy!. "Anthony Gordon says hes the best man manager hes ever worked with" and Smug is his boss!
- Aug 8, 2005
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Although I agree on ability on Poch and Klopp as I posted above, the stats show only one country has won a trophy with a foreign manager. Greece in the Euros. No one else has done it.
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A preference for a manager who won't want the job.
Well that may well be true. But worth checking.
As much as Klopp would be a success, I feel it must go to an English person.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Out of realistic contenders, Lampard.
As I've said, an international manager gets little time with his players and it's not really coaching to the full. He has to be likeable and able to identify a team that works together. Lampard is a very attacking coach.
In an international context, I think he fits the mold. And he'd be popular with the team as someone who is a respected former England player who has been there and done it.
I wouldn't choose Potter. I see him as more of a club manager.
As I've said, an international manager gets little time with his players and it's not really coaching to the full. He has to be likeable and able to identify a team that works together. Lampard is a very attacking coach.
In an international context, I think he fits the mold. And he'd be popular with the team as someone who is a respected former England player who has been there and done it.
I wouldn't choose Potter. I see him as more of a club manager.