[Albion] Where’s Dale

[Weststander]

I was having the same conversation with El Pres and a few others recently about the no frills midfielders that have been a massive influence on the pitch and made their team-mates- who received all the plaudits - much better players: I offered Crofts, Hammond, Kishishev and El Pres added McNab, Horton and Grealish.

Always been the way. Ronnie Whelan at Liverpool in a very long career held everything together in a brilliant midfield, but rarely got headlines.

Great shout about Kishishev, he oozed class.

 

[Icy Gull]

I was having the same conversation with El Pres and a few others recently about the no frills midfielders that have been a massive influence on the pitch and made their team-mates- who received all the plaudits - much better players: I offered Crofts, Hammond, Kishishev and El Pres added McNab, Horton and Grealish.

I think Kishishev and Horton did get the plaudits though?

 

[Buzzer]

Always been the way. Ronnie Whelan at Liverpool in a very long career held everything together in a brilliant midfield, but rarely got headlines.

Great shout about Kishishev, he oozed class.

Really pleased that other Brighton fans still remember him.A real shame that he was a one season wonder at the very end of his career

 

[Buzzer]

I think Kishishev and Horton did get the plaudits though?

Horton maybe but I wonder if that was because he was captain. Kishishev? I'd have to agree to disagree. That season it was Bennett, Bridcutt and Lua Lua who grabbed the headlines and unless I'm blind, I rarely ever see Kishishev mentioned on here.

 

[Weststander]

Really pleased that other Brighton fans still remember him.A real shame that he was a one season wonder at the very end of his career

I thought about him recently. A cool head, great in possession, great passer and rarely gave the ball away. A successful cameo at the end of a great career.

 

[The Large One]

I was having the same conversation with El Pres and a few others recently about the no frills midfielders that have been a massive influence on the pitch and made their team-mates- who received all the plaudits - much better players: I offered Crofts, Hammond, Kishishev and El Pres added McNab, Horton and Grealish.

For me, Crofts was criminally under rated.

 

[Driver8]

Could have done with Sidwell today.

 

[Weststander]

For me, Crofts was criminally under rated.

I was gutted when he left, almost has much as when Murray did. At that time and for us, Crofts was a great central midfielder.

 

[Gwylan]

Stephens may just have taken a step closer to an England call-up today

 

[Buzzer]

Stephens may just have taken a step closer to an England call-up today

Sadly, I can't see it myself. If Dunk can't get in the England team then I really can't see Stevens getting a shout. There's definitely a glass ceiling in place for players at smaller clubs where England call ups are concerned.

 

[Gwylan]

Sadly, I can't see it myself. If Dunk can't get in the England team then I really can't see Stevens getting a shout. There's definitely a glass ceiling in place for players at smaller clubs where England call ups are concerned.

I agree that it would a bold move to pick a Brighton player, but I do think that Stephens has more of a chance than Dunk. There are loads of English centre backs around but not so many English midfielders in the Stephens mould, He's clearly highly rated by his fellow pros

 

[Machiavelli]

Propper isn’t.

Amongst all Stephens' qualities, pace isn't one of them. Propper is clearly quicker than Stephens both over short and long distances. This seems very obvious to me.

 

[Weststander]

Amongst all Stephens' qualities, pace isn't one of them. Propper is clearly quicker than Stephens both over short and long distances. This seems very obvious to me.

All about opinions. I think Stephens has decent pace, but it's Propper's main weakness.

 

[BensGrandad]

All about opinions. I think Stephens has decent pace, but it's Propper's main weakness.

I think that Propper's weakness is his wayward shooting.

 

[Weststander]

I think that Propper's weakness is his wayward shooting.

I can't recall him trying, does he get that far forward?

 

[BensGrandad]

I can't recall him trying, does he get that far forward?

Her has had a few tries I think but I cannot remember him getting one on target.

 

[Machiavelli]

All about opinions. I think Stephens has decent pace, but it's Propper's main weakness.

It really isn't about opinions. Pace is something that is measurable, just as passing accuracy is. To the best of my knowledge, there are widespread stats for the latter, but not the former.