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[Albion] Where is Moises going? (Chelsea - 14/08/2023)

Where is Moises going?


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Mancgull

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Nov 28, 2011
5,636
Astley, Manchester
Judging by recent betting changes are we about to see a deal involving Connor Gallagher
No. Why would we want to make things easier for them. We have plenty of midfielders. If Caicedo goes we’ll need a defensive midfielder and Gallagher isn’t that.
We gave them an option to negotiate with Colwill and they refused that option. Therefore it’s hardball £ms down or no deal.
Chelsea may want Gallagher off their hands and so may have suggested it, but I’d be amazed if we are interested.
 




Cordwainer

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Jul 30, 2023
593
No. Why would we want to make things easier for them. We have plenty of midfielders. If Caicedo goes we’ll need a defensive midfielder and Gallagher isn’t that.
We gave them an option to negotiate with Colwill and they refused that option. Therefore it’s hardball £ms down or no deal.
Chelsea may want Gallagher off their hands and so may have suggested it, but I’d be amazed if we are interested.
Completely agree. As someone else pointed out CG runs around like a dog chasing a balloon. Snidey little sh1t leaves something in on every tackle as well. Not needed now, not needed ever.
 




severnside gull

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May 16, 2007
24,831
By the seaside in West Somerset
I’m pretty sure we haven’t told them what’s needed tbh. The £100m quoted is press talk. We may want £110m or more for all we know. We do don’t put a public figure on any of our players.
Which somewhat reinforces my point
 








Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,419
Has it, though? Yes, we turned 70m down in January, but a lot of clubs don't like doing business in January, and with Arsenal looking going for Rice and seemingly not coming back in for Caicedo, Liverpool seemingly not prepared to spend big and Utd and City not declaring a strong interest, Brighton might have looked at a 70m bid from Chelsea as the only chance of getting such a fee. Caicedo (or his agents) had made a noise to leave in January, so there was a clear desire for him to go, the De Zerbi had noted an expectation that he would go after the final match of the season. It's not so insultingly low an offer in that context.

As others have noted, Brighton don't put a price tag on their players. We listen to a bid and say yay or nay. No club should be go in with over the top bids for players when they could possibly get them for significantly lower. So it's in Chelsea's interest to gradually increase the bid. 70m turned away instantly was apparently followed by an 80m bid. That's a significant increase, it's not like 70m was laughed off and they came back with a 70.1m bid.

Put the transfer rumour circus to one side (as one would suspect Barber et al and Boehly et al are doing, which includes putting aside the 100m "price tag") and it's playing out in a fairly standard manner.
Except Caicedo signed a new contract in March, going from a player who was going to be out of contract in just over two years, to one who had given us until 2027 with an option for a year. We don't need the money, there is no release clause and we are fully aware that, at 21, and barring injury, his price is likely to go in only one direction.

Given that Rice went to Arsenal in the last year of his contract for £105m, and that Chelsea had dealt with us and seen us reject Man City over Cucu in similar circumstances last year, they should have been clear that Brighton were never going to deal unless they were blown away by the size of the offer. The only way that lowballing and gradually increasing was going to work was if the player was willing to burn his bridges. At this stage, it seems that Moises, a young lad thousands of miles from home, is playing alongside a cadre of Spanish-speaking South American friends, one of whom is a senior colleague in his national side, is learning under an exciting manager in a very supportive environment, in a team that is going to give him European experience, and although he may want his chance at the big money prize, he may not be prepared to burn all of this to get it immediately. If that's true, he's either sensible, well advised or both. If it's not this summer, his chance will undoubtedly come again and next time around, it could be with a team that wins League titles rather than one that used to getting on for a decade ago, when their previous owner's wealth had no competition from Nation States.
 


SeaGullBum

Active member
Aug 4, 2023
96
Finally decided to Sign up after lurking around the place for a while, personally I think Chelsea have been much more disrespectful to us then Arsenal in regards to Moises.

Fair enough Arsenal didn't get the Memo in January and Soured relations, but Chelsea are a different breed, arrogant bunch of rats that expect everything and anything.

Rice Fee or Walk on Todd, you bum.
 




Maxx

New member
Aug 29, 2015
26
Caicedo was a notable absentee from the PL Media Access day today, where all players get shot in full kit by a photographer ahead of the new season.

Could be an indication that a deal is close and the club don’t expect him to be around for much longer.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
16,787
Near Dorchester, Dorset
Caicedo was a notable absentee from the PL Media Access day today, where all players get shot in full kit by a photographer ahead of the new season.

Could be an indication that a deal is close and the club don’t expect him to be around for much longer.
Potter and his team were all in the team photo taken the day before he went to Chelsea. Means nothing.
 


Bald Head

Well-known member
Jul 20, 2022
615
Brighton
Finally decided to Sign up after lurking around the place for a while, personally I think Chelsea have been much more disrespectful to us then Arsenal in regards to Moises.

Fair enough Arsenal didn't get the Memo in January and Soured relations, but Chelsea are a different breed, arrogant bunch of rats that expect everything and anything.

Rice Fee or Walk on Todd, you bum.
Welcome SeaGullBum.
 












Sheebo

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2003
29,319
Textbook.

Amazing - he’s spoke to Caicedo this morning - thought he would’ve been training but fair play to Jacobs. He really is everywhere.
 


7:18

Brighton & Hove Albion
Aug 6, 2006
8,490
Brighton, England
Caicedo was a notable absentee from the PL Media Access day today, where all players get shot in full kit by a photographer ahead of the new season.

Could be an indication that a deal is close and the club don’t expect him to be around for much longer.
That is worrying…..
 








dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,315
London
Caicedo was a notable absentee from the PL Media Access day today, where all players get shot in full kit by a photographer ahead of the new season.

Could be an indication that a deal is close and the club don’t expect him to be around for much longer.
Maybe the most important post on this thread. If true, then it's 99% over.
 




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