[Albion] Where is Moises going? (Chelsea - 14/08/2023)

[Greg Bobkin]

We’re at it as well

That's got to be a piss-take, having seen the route the 'Chels' mob went down.

It's beautifully over the top, with novice photoshop on the badge, orange jumpsuit and handcuffs

 

[The Pilsbury Echo]

And it does make a lot of sense. We have a lot of central midfielders and need defenders; arguably they have the reverse issue. Caicedo wants to go there and Colwill wants to come here. Its such an obvious swop deal.

Moreover its a great negotiating tactic for us, because we could sell Caicedo to anyone for a decent fee, but only Chelsea have Colwill. And if they won't include Colwill they'll have to go mega-bucks to get ahead of other teams.

The sticking point is that they know they're *Chelsea* and want them both. And that Poch clearly rates Colwill.

My gut is that this could happen, but more likely that either nothing happens or they stump up the £100m.

Has Colwill actually said he wants to come here? RDZ has been quoted as saying that if we sign Igor it will be the final piece to complete his squad ( should Moises stay)This is not to say Caicedo won't leave but we would then be looking for another midfielder and not a CB unless RDZ thinks he can cover Moises with what we already have leaving Colwill to come in...but very unlikely IMO!

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Has Colwill actually said he wants to come here? RDZ has been quoted as saying that if we sign Igor it will be the final piece to complete his squad ( should Moises stay)This is not to say Caicedo won't leave but we would then be looking for another midfielder and not a CB unless RDZ thinks he can cover Moises with what we already have leaving Colwill to come in...but very unlikely IMO!

De Zerbi never said "it will be the final piece", he actually said “He can be a right player for us to complete the squad and to be important for us.” and as he will be informed on all of our transfer business he may be talking hollistcally, not as an individual signing.

As for replacing Moises, if he leaves, De Zerbi has said "if Moises leaves we have to find the right player because it’s difficult to replace a player as good as Moises" that's ambiguous as he may be talking from within the existing squad or, more likey a new signing, like Kudus.

 

[GT49er]

Has Colwill actually said he wants to come here? RDZ has been quoted as saying that if we sign Igor it will be the final piece to complete his squad ( should Moises stay)This is not to say Caicedo won't leave but we would then be looking for another midfielder and not a CB unless RDZ thinks he can cover Moises with what we already have leaving Colwill to come in...but very unlikely IMO!

Has he?

 

[jcdenton08]

I wonder if he goes whether he would be replaced, in honesty. For two positions in a double pivot, we have;

Dahoud
Gilmour
Groß
Ayari
Milner(?)
Alzate

That’s two covers for each, assuming Dahoud and Gilmour would be our starting pair.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

One of those 3 will probably happen

fair point

But the one I missed out was us selling soon for a negotiated £80-90m - thats what the media reckon will happen but perhaps the least likely

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Has Colwill actually said he wants to come here?

Not publicly, that would be silly, but there appear to be some very solid sources of people who he has said it to.

 

[GoingUp]

Would be great if a Saudi club came in and offered £160 million

 

[Oh_aye]

Not publicly, that would be silly, but there appear to be some very solid sources of people who he has said it to.

Also he hasn't signed a new contract has he?

 

[dazzer6666]

Comments are interesting……quite a number turning on the Chelsea management/ownership now

 

[Icy Gull]

When is the much predicted toy throwing starting?

Not convinced it will happen at all personally.

Unless a Colwill deal can be approved I don’t think he’ll be going to Chelsea

 

[dazzer6666]

When is the much predicted toy throwing starting?

Not convinced it will happen at all personally.

Unless a Colwill deal can be approved I don’t think he’ll be going to Chelsea

Agreed…been saying this all along. It’s either Colwill plus cash (or possibly a ridiculous amount of cash) or the deal isn’t happening. Can’t see the Lizard blinking first.

 

[Bodian]

Comments are interesting……quite a number turning on the Chelsea management/ownership now

Quite a few are saying either that he doesn't really 'want' the move (ie: if he was desperate he would have put in a transfer request) and that if they want him, they're going to have pay for him properly. So - seems as though some are gradually beginning to understand the reality.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Comments are interesting……quite a number turning on the Chelsea management/ownership now

How do you read the comments if you're not on twitter?

I used to be able to but now all I get is the tweet.

 

[BBassic]

Quite a few are saying either that he doesn't really 'want' the move (ie: if he was desperate he would have put in a transfer request) and that if they want him, they're going to have pay for him properly. So - seems as though some are gradually beginning to understand the reality.

I've been lurking on the various Reddit threads about this and it's pretty fascinating (read: hilarious) to see the various takes on there.

"Should sack his agents for not putting a release clause in" - probably a fair comment, on balance
"Needs to refuse to play to push the move" - we don't tend to buckle to that pressure
"Brighton are greedy" - Brighton have a valuation Chelsea have yet to meet

And so on and so on.

But the one that really amuses is:

"He's played under 50 games, how are they asking for £100m?"

Easy: we put in a f**k-ton of work over (I think) three years to sign him in the first place. He's a vital part of our team. He's young and genuinely has potential to become the best defensive midfielder on the planet. Most importantly he's under contract, a contract he signed six months ago.

I swear the users on r/soccer have an average age of 15 or something.

 

[dazzer6666]

How do you read the comments if you're not on twitter?

I used to be able to but now all I get is the tweet.

Should still be able to open on desktop without a login I think but not sure

 

[Acker79]

Fabrizio has gone quiet on this weeks even months ago he was reporting a done deal

Having wasted a portion of my time putting together a collage showing a selection of his tweets over a month in which he was simply rewording 'caicedo and chelsea pretty much agreed contract, now it's just about chelsea and brighton agreeing a fee' I will take his silence over another version of a tweet about the same situation

 

[Muzzman]

How do you read the comments if you're not on twitter?

I used to be able to but now all I get is the tweet.

Having the same problem, I don't have a twitter account so I guess I'll have to remain ignorant to ignorant comments... ahh well.

 

[SeagullinExile]

And it does make a lot of sense. We have a lot of central midfielders and need defenders; arguably they have the reverse issue. Caicedo wants to go there and Colwill wants to come here. Its such an obvious swop deal.

Moreover its a great negotiating tactic for us, because we could sell Caicedo to anyone for a decent fee, but only Chelsea have Colwill. And if they won't include Colwill they'll have to go mega-bucks to get ahead of other teams.

The sticking point is that they know they're *Chelsea* and want them both. And that Poch clearly rates Colwill.

My gut is that this could happen, but more likely that either nothing happens or they stump up the £100m.

Hedging your bets there I see!

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Should still be able to open on desktop without a login I think but not sure

I'm using my desktop.

I wonder if it's something Musk has come up with or if it's just because my computer is old and a bit shit.