[Music] When you read something about your heroes that you don’t want to beliieve

[maltaseagull]

…. or get an out of court settlement before it goes to court.

Yes, that is probably what happens a lot of the time.

 

[Bry Nylon]

…when I read that [MENTION=457]sheebo[/MENTION] disagreed with the £20 ST sharing fee

 

[m@goo]

Some of these responses are the reason a lot of people don't come forward. Time line doesn't match up, looking for an easy target, no other claims of assault against them etc.

 

[Sheebo]

…when I read that [MENTION=457]sheebo[/MENTION] disagreed with the £20 ST sharing fee

It’s not the £20 it’s the each person has to be a mem….

Oh forget it. What a compliment your post was

 

[Tom Bombadil]

This seems a pretty week case at this stage what with all the easily available evidence of Dylan not being in New York at the time. However were they to provide some corroboration or if other people come forward with similar stories then there would start to be a case to answer.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Something about the claim doesn't ring true to me, why wait this long,?

Just seems an easy target to get money from. However....

What was a 12 year old doing paying multiple visits to the Chelsea Hotel on her own? Hmmm....innocent until proven guilty (and I don't like Dylan - never have).

 

[Baldseagull]

I’ve always been relieved as I love the music that the iconic Stones, Beatles and others haven’t been embroiled in these latter day scandals. A couple of theories why, they were fancied by all and sundry anyway (groupies), and obviously it not being in their character. Your hero David Crosby could take his pick of female admirers and did. Similarly, from colourful autobio’s I read by Rod Stewart, Peter Hook, Barney Sumner and Billy Idol.

Whilst less loved showbizz ‘characters’ such as Gadd, Jonathan King, Savile, Max Clifford exploited opportunities from working in the sector.

Bill Wyman? I mean apart from him being a Palace fan.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If it involves 12 year olds you are spot on

Mick Ronson shagged a 15 year old I went to school with, backstage, at the Dome on 1973.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

If it involves 12 year olds you are spot on

Jagger/Bowie/Jimmy Page all had a sexual relationship with the same under age American child model in the early seventies.
I believe she was 13/14 years old at the time.

 

[Weststander]

Bill Wyman? I mean apart from him being a Palace fan.

I forgot about him. Not excusing it, but Mandy loved the money, fame and at least he married her.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Been reading things I don't like about Morrissey for years now

 

[Mr Putdown]

I forgot about him. Not excusing it, but Mandy loved the money, fame and at least he married her.

Remember Mick Jagger? Both Lori Mattix and Rae Dawn were well underage.

 

[zefarelly]

I'm thinking of suing the BBC. . . ToTP, presented by Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter was on . . . . I have been abused.

£1m woud be nice . . . .I think I have as good a chance.

 

[Insel affe]

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least, as others have alluded too, many past stars have dubious pasts, and should be named & shamed.
Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis were the hero’s of many of these named, and they both had sex with under age girls.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

I don’t believe it......Gold digger

 

[SAC]

Paul Weller. Accused (but not charged) of rape. I certainly didn't want to believe it but it made me feel uncomfortable at the time.

Pete Townsend. Although not really a hero of mine, I loved The Who. Naive or pervert?

 

[m@goo]

Such typical, male centric, tired old crap from people as usual when someone makes a sexual assault or rape claim against someone powerful. It's the reason Savile, Epstein et al. were able to get away with what they did for so long, because people were afraid to come forward because they knew they wouldn't be believed and would probably be ridiculed and abused even more.

Just consider what it takes for someone to come forward against the likes of Dylan knowing they are probably opening themselves up to online abuse and hate and even public abuse knowing they probably won't get any form of justice.

So what if the time line doesn't quite match up? It was decades ago and people can be unsure of where they were but I bet she remembers damn well who it was and what they did. I assume many of us have young girls and women in our families. Would you be the same if they came to you about someone you admired?

 

[Icy Gull]

Such typical, male centric, tired old crap from people as usual when someone makes a sexual assault or rape claim against someone powerful. It's the reason Savile, Epstein et al. were able to get away with what they did for so long, because people were afraid to come forward because they knew they wouldn't be believed and would probably be ridiculed and abused even more.

Just consider what it takes for someone to come forward against the likes of Dylan knowing they are probably opening themselves up to online abuse and hate and even public abuse knowing they probably won't get any form of justice.

So what if the time line doesn't quite match up? It was decades ago and people can be unsure of where they were but I bet she remembers damn well who it was and what they did. I assume many of us have young girls and women in our families. Would you be the same if they came to you about someone you admired?

So Dylan is probably guilty then by your reckoning? I assume a raft of others will come forward now too….

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Such typical, male centric, tired old crap from people as usual when someone makes a sexual assault or rape claim against someone powerful. It's the reason Savile, Epstein et al. were able to get away with what they did for so long, because people were afraid to come forward because they knew they wouldn't be believed and would probably be ridiculed and abused even more.

Just consider what it takes for someone to come forward against the likes of Dylan knowing they are probably opening themselves up to online abuse and hate and even public abuse knowing they probably won't get any form of justice.

So what if the time line doesn't quite match up? It was decades ago and people can be unsure of where they were but I bet she remembers damn well who it was and what they did. I assume many of us have young girls and women in our families. Would you be the same if they came to you about someone you admired?

The evidence before the court is
Incontrovertible, there's no need for
The jury to retire
In all my years of judging
I have never heard before
Of someone more deserving
Of the full penalty of law
The way you made them suffer
Your exquisite wife and mother
Fills me with the urge to defecate

 

[m@goo]

So guilty then?

We don't know do we. But when you bear in mind what I've just said I would err on the side of probably, yes. Also bearing in mind that the vast majority of women at some point in there lives will be subject to some form of abuse from a man then also I would believe her.

Like I said if it was a female in your family would you believe her or call her a gold digging attention seeker?