[Albion] When will our fans turn?

[Kalimantan Gull]

…because our model is to sell best players and managers (not that we have any choice realistically, but it will frustrate)

I’m just wondering when this will lead to spectacular sense of entitlement perhaps from some quarters? Or are we more grounded than more massive clubs like Wednesday and Leeds?

Can I push back a little on the concept of 'this is our model'? That does imply we actively seek out sales of our best players. Whereas we actively tried to keep Cucurella and Caicedo before the offers got too big to turn down, and in the cases of Bissouma, Trossard and MacAllister they had each given us over three years of service, wanted to move up in the game and went with our blessing. I'm sure if any of those three wanted to sign a new contract we'd have happily given them one. Perhaps only White is an example of us trying to generate income through a player sale (home grown player, big FFP bonus).

Maybe things would be different without the chelsea millions, but we do feel quite in control of our sales, rather than being led by a model.

 

[Insel affe]

This fan is not for turning.

or put another way, wunt be druv

 

[Triggaaar]

Oh and Sheffield was the first game this season when I didn't have a single bellend in earshot.

Well done everybody.

Bet they wish they could say the same


oh come on

 

[nickbrighton]

I dont think the majority of our current fans will "turn" , but what may well happen, is that over time more and more of the fanbase will be made up of those who can only remember us as a Premier league club.

Given that we have been at Falmer over a decade, most of the under 15 year olds won't remember Withdean, let alone Gillingham, or the Goldstone. We are now in our Seventh straight season in the PL, there are a growing number of young supporters who know nothing else. As that demographic becomes older, and more vocal, and a greater percentage of the fanbase, the definition of success will be very different from that of the majority of current spectators

For me just being in the Premier League is a successful outcome, and a cause to be happy, but for some being in the PL is standard, and nothing unusual, being all they have known.
We will start to become entitled if we are still in the PL for another 4 or 5 years

 

[drew]

Fans won't turn, plastics will.

 

[timbha]

There were some on here that moaned tirelessly at the results under Hyypia, the stalemate under Hughton and swore that would be their last season as a STH. Bafflingly they even said the same when we stopped scoring under Potter.

Then they were not going to renew their ST because of the buses, trains, random kick off times, getting home late, and of course the so called draconian ticket rule enforcement (note: Hawthorns yday), plus other safety measures.

Well, if you are one of those moaners, did you carry through your threat? You (and we) know who you are?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

…because our model is to sell best players and managers (not that we have any choice realistically, but it will frustrate)

I’m just wondering when this will lead to spectacular sense of entitlement perhaps from some quarters? Or are we more grounded than more massive clubs like Wednesday and Leeds?

Started already hasn't it? with the 'you've seen the Albion now @%#& off home' chants

 

[LamieRobertson]

Why overthink these things? Just enjoy the ride

Exactly

 

[TomandJerry]

I think the closest the fans have come to turning (during the Amex period) on a manager was when Hyypia was here...

 

[Marshy]

If they start as it looks to really implement FFP then it really stops people 'turning' in my opinion, as only the Stupid would suggest our model is wrong

More likely people will get more pissed off that FFP actually help the Big 6

Some Fans will always want more though regardless of how well you do

 

[Baldseagull]

Oh and Sheffield was the first game this season when I didn't have a single bellend in earshot.

Well done everybody.

If there is not an annoying twat near you at the football, it's because you are the annoying twat.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

When Hyypia comes back for a 2nd stint.

I actually think that Hyypia would do much better now with better players more suited to putting his ideas into practice. Not that I particularly want him back. I think we'd be in the market for better coaches these days.

As for Leicester supporters turning on their owner, they are the warning to us. If a club that has won the league and cup in recent years can go down after one bad season, then so can we, as most of us have always known.

 

[Winker]

When all of us NSC old codger types have died and all that's left is people who can't remember what we've been though. 5 years

Or when us old codgers can't remember what we've been through or who we are

 

[tstanbur]

I dont think the majority of our current fans will "turn" , but what may well happen, is that over time more and more of the fanbase will be made up of those who can only remember us as a Premier league club.

Given that we have been at Falmer over a decade, most of the under 15 year olds won't remember Withdean, let alone Gillingham, or the Goldstone. We are now in our Seventh straight season in the PL, there are a growing number of young supporters who know nothing else. As that demographic becomes older, and more vocal, and a greater percentage of the fanbase, the definition of success will be very different from that of the majority of current spectators

For me just being in the Premier League is a successful outcome, and a cause to be happy, but for some being in the PL is standard, and nothing unusual, being all they have known.
We will start to become entitled if we are still in the PL for another 4 or 5

 

[chaileyjem]

Fans won't turn, plastics will.

Who actually is a plastic ?

 

[drew]

Who actually is a plastic ?

Simple, they'll give themselves away but being the first to turn!!

 

[tstanbur]

Can I push back a little on the concept of 'this is our model'? That does imply we actively seek out sales of our best players. Whereas we actively tried to keep Cucurella and Caicedo before the offers got too big to turn down, and in the cases of Bissouma, Trossard and MacAllister they had each given us over three years of service, wanted to move up in the game and went with our blessing. I'm sure if any of those three wanted to sign a new contract we'd have happily given them one. Perhaps only White is an example of us trying to generate income through a player sale (home grown player, big FFP bonus).

Maybe things would be different without the chelsea millions, but we do feel quite in control of our sales, rather than being led by a model.

Completely agree. Seems to be a lazy narrative everywhere that we are choosing to cash in and sell our best players all the time.

We don’t want to or need to. As you say we’d be more than happy to keep them at the club but the majority that have left has been decisions by the players, not much you can do really is there?

Even at £115m, it appeared we wanted to keep Moises if he wanted to stay.

 

[timbha]

Yes but what about Dean Saunders?

 

[Napper]

fair few moans and groans now when things are not going so well in a game.

If we got involved in a relegation fight then alot will turn

 

[nickbrighton]

Can I push back a little on the concept of 'this is our model'? That does imply we actively seek out sales of our best players. Whereas we actively tried to keep Cucurella and Caicedo before the offers got too big to turn down, and in the cases of Bissouma, Trossard and MacAllister they had each given us over three years of service, wanted to move up in the game and went with our blessing. I'm sure if any of those three wanted to sign a new contract we'd have happily given them one. Perhaps only White is an example of us trying to generate income through a player sale (home grown player, big FFP bonus).

Maybe things would be different without the chelsea millions, but we do feel quite in control of our sales, rather than being led by a model.

Being in control of our sales is the model that we follow though, Buy at a low price, or develop through acadamy , keep and sell at a profit when the time is right both for club and player