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Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
I like the way you chaps have caught your prey. It took a while for him to nibble, but eventually he's bitten and you have a nice 300lb Digsweeds Trousers flopping on the bank, gaspnig for air. Top fishing.
I do enjoy Digweeds posts, but snaring him with one of his fabled Scotch rants is always a particular TREAT. :thumbsup:
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
62,763
Chandlers Ford
A couple of years ago I worked in Glasgow for a month, I was surprised at the lack of anti English feeling. I don't know about the suburbs but the centre of Glasgow is not bad at all.

I was in Glasgow the day England played Argentina in the 2002 World Cup. I think you'd have formed a different opinion that day.
 






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Where do you stay when you visit ? If you are staying in a hotel I can give you some very good recommendations. Yes I agree that it has it's problem estates on the outskirts of Glasgow like all cities, however it also has many museums and some of the finest restaurants and independent shops in the UK.

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Everywhere from Prem Travel Inns, through the Jury's on Kelvinside, to the Holiday Inn, and the Stakis (as was), Ramada and Marriott in the centre. I've worked at venues in Tollcross (many, many times), Bellshill, Kelvinside, Scotstoun, Whitehill, Castlemilk and Drumchapel, as well as places like East Kilbride and Hamilton, totalling a minimum of 2-3 weeks every year for the last 16 years.

My glib comments might have marked me out as just on a wind-up, but I honestly know the place pretty well, and in my opinion, MOST of it is f***ing horrible.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
The day of the aforementionned England - Argentina game, gave me a particularly lovely insight into the delightfully tolerant attitudes.

We spent the day surrounded by rabidly jealous locals, proudly sporting the latest Argentina shirt, that they'd spunked half of that week's giro on. We watched the game in a bar in a Sports Centre in Scotstoun, where we were working, preferring that to the more obviously hostile environment of a pub. The atmosphere was barbed banter to begin with, until such time as Beckham scored, after which the pure bile and genuine hatred of all things English spilled out.

We went out that night, and kept our heads down, apart from asking the (English) DJ in the Student Union bar, to play '3 Lions' (he sensibly refused...), and we made to feel generally unwelcome.

At a kebab shop at about 2am, this hard looking chap, turned round on us in the queue, and asked "Are yous English?"

"err, yes", we acknowledged.

"See, ah hope yous win your next game" he declared.

"Oh. Thanks" say we taken aback to find an 'ally'.

"Aye. Ah hate they f***ing niggers"...
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
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Way out west
We went out that night, and kept our heads down, apart from asking the (English) DJ in the Student Union bar, to play '3 Lions' (he sensibly refused...), and we made to feel generally unwelcome.

Similar experience in Scotland...went to this big military recruitment event and got chatting with a piper from one of the Scots Regiments marching bands. Told him that I had really enjoyed their display and asked if they played requests, his eyes lit up in response to someone who enjoyed the skirl of the pipes (particularly from a sassenach)...I then asked if they could play Rule Britannia...the reply was unprintable and I took it as a no!
 




Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,892
Guiseley
Glagow city centre is beautiful. If you think otherwise you're probably a bit of a nube (or you've never been there.)
 


Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Leek
Scotland is a magnificent country. Glasgow is a blight and thankfully I have not had to spend too long there. The Borders is a wonderful area.

With you there Barrel the Scottish borders are really rather special and when you put the highlands in such as Inverness stunning area.
 


Digweeds Trousers

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May 17, 2004
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Tunbridge Wells
I can't help it. I'm dreadfully myopic about the whole Scotland 'thing'. I go back every month - so refute the whole Tunbridge Wells snipe that Simster likes to throw around.

It's a beautiful country - Glasgow has turned into a fantastic city both for bars, restaurants and general socialising. There is an anti-English feeling - but I have to say it is usually confined to verbals in pretty good humour.

What always surprises me is the reaction it gets from quite a few English people who work up there - and there is these days a huge English presence in the city. No worse than any Friday or Saturday night in an English market town.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
Well first of all, Simster mentions neither drink nor drugs, so I'm a bit confused as to your response to him.

And secondly, utter bullshit. I've made plenty of visits to Glasgow, thanks, although none since two weeks ago, and however you wish to dress it up, it a f***ing HOLE.

I visited Glasgow once, and it was like walking past one of those old TV cartoons where the characters would 'run' past a background that kept repeating itself every few seconds.

Walking to the meeting place from the rail station it was pawn shop, bookies, off licence, kebab/chip shop on an endless loop.

Fascinating anthropoligical study to be made by someone.
 


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May 9, 2008
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Haywards Heath
A couple of years ago I worked in Glasgow for a month, I was surprised at the lack of anti English feeling. I don't know about the suburbs but the centre of Glasgow is not bad at all.

I've been to glasgow, in my experience it sees itself as seperate from the rest of scotland, whether thats down to the sectarian thing i dont know, one thing i DO know is that the birds are absolute FILTH.
 


bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Kent
I was in Glasgow the day England played Argentina in the 2002 World Cup. I think you'd have formed a different opinion that day.

I'm sure if Scotland ever manage to get into a World Cup again you'll get a similar reaction in English Cities (although maybe not London seeing as how many foreigners live there).
 




Joebananas

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Jan 30, 2011
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Glasgow is scary compared to other parts of Scotland!

My ex wife was from Glasgow so we had to do the obligatory family visits every so often for a wedding/funeral/ christening. They we from a pretty rum area just outside the City. Regularly you would see kids aged around 10-12 walking up the street enthusiastically slugging from a Vodka bottle and the last time I was there a guy was stabbed to death in the next street over a £10 debt.

Very scary place but Haggis neeps and tatties is great.
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
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I'm sure if Scotland ever manage to get into a World Cup again you'll get a similar reaction in English Cities (although maybe not London seeing as how many foreigners live there).

I genuinely think you wouldn't.

Scotland playing is genuinely greeted with indifference or a wish for them to win.
 


Eagle Slayer

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Jul 15, 2007
789
Worthing
I went to scotland earlier this year and expected it to be a proper shit hole , i was surprised .. went to places like the SECC, Ibrox and other parts of Glasgow and was surprised at how tidy it was.... unless i was lucky and avoided the crap parts ? Was up there the weekend of the Rangers/Celtic cup match ... i saw no trouble at all, bars were fall of both sets of fans and seemed ok. Loch Lomond and some of the west coast was some of the best views i had ever seen even if the weather wasnt great. The person who met me at Glasgow airport lived 138 odd miles away from Glasgow and when we went back to where they lived over 24 hours later couldnt believe they had travelled that far and for that amount of time and never even locked their front door and apparently no body ever does in that area I stayed.
 


mona

The Glory Game
Jul 9, 2003
5,471
High up on the South Downs.
How do you change the booze culture of a country like Scotland? Whisky is to the Scots what wine is to the French. And the only thing that stops the French being pissheads is they have a bit of nice weather. If they weren't playing boules in the square and the wind and rain were lashing down they'd all be getting trolleyed in the auberge.

A genuine lol here.



For what it's worth, my experience of Scotland showed that Aberdeen was the hardest drinking city - rather than Glasgow or Dundee.
 




Lady Whistledown

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Lady Whistledown

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