Icy Gull
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There was another angle they showed on the stream I was watching where it did appear to brush his hand, to the point where I knew it would be disallowed once I’d seen it.
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[Albion] What was the worst ref decision today?
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If ref had called handball, we wouldn’t have got it overturned on VAR.
But Once the ref has allowed the goal, all that matters is clear and obvious error. It wasn’t a clear and obvious error.
We were 100% shafted.
Mancgull
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From the first game of the season where the ref didn’t give a penalty for the blatant push on Welbeck we’ve had numerous dubious ones against us and some clear errors such as the offside v Palace.
Neville's Breakfast
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How could you know they were neutral ? ‘Big’ clubs are global. Big money is global. Getting foreign officials would not change anything. This is a very dangerous direction of travel for supporters to go down. It ends with no game.
Yes. This angle, in itself, should have ruled out clear and obvious error even if other angles looked more like handball.
sydney
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the most glaring mistake was Attwell's decision to get out of bed ffs...!!
sydney
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MacAllister's arm was drawn in to his body and his back was to Wellbeck extremely harsh decision although , to the letter of the law , correct ( see 2nd handball last week
) Mitoma's was definitely a penalty , if that is Veltman on Kane it's given all day long , pathetic homer of a ref.
DarrenFreemansPerm
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The thing that I really can’t get my head around is the Welbeck/Mac disallowed goal. Firstly there’s no conclusive evidence that it actually touched his arm, I’m fairly certain that it came off his hip, however, even if it did graze his arm what the f*** is he actually supposed to do with his offending limb? A swift and temporary amputation? His arm is pinned against his body, there’s literally nothing he could do about it. So here we are having goals disallowed as that’s handball, yet last week Hickey stopped the ball with his arm partially extended from his body and that’s absolutely fine.
VAR is shit.
The refs and assistants are shit.
Howard Webb is a bell end, he’s taken something broken and somehow made it a whole lot worse, but hey, he’ll say sorry so it’s all good, right?
VAR is shit.
The refs and assistants are shit.
Howard Webb is a bell end, he’s taken something broken and somehow made it a whole lot worse, but hey, he’ll say sorry so it’s all good, right?
?All of the above
The Mitoma penalty.
Referee 10 yards away,looking straight at it, no one impeding his view, Mitoma doesn’t make a meal of it, completely natural fall to the ground.
VAR, perfect camera angle, you can see the defenders foot coming down on Mitomas foot, thereby tripping him.
None of the other, admittedly,awful decisions were quite as blatant as this one.
Referee 10 yards away,looking straight at it, no one impeding his view, Mitoma doesn’t make a meal of it, completely natural fall to the ground.
VAR, perfect camera angle, you can see the defenders foot coming down on Mitomas foot, thereby tripping him.
None of the other, admittedly,awful decisions were quite as blatant as this one.
BRIGHT ON Q
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The most gut wrenching one was Welbecks goal, I really thought ...yep nothing wrong with that... and then the inevitable happens. The TV remote went across the room.
The 4 most controversial decisions from Brighton's defeat to Spurs and if VAR got them right
Brighton felt aggrieved at a number of incidents that went against them during a 2-1 defeat at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium
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Brighton should have had penalty at Tottenham, admits PGMOL
The PGMOL has admitted a mistake was made by the match officials and VAR when not awarding a penalty to Brighton in Sundays Premier League game against Tottenham.
PGMOL admits penalty error, but not the rest (according to sky). So, it has to be that one!
Pondicherry
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Yes I agree the clear foul on March. Not been mentioned much but was in the box and looked like a clear foul. The other one you mention was also March and again a clear push and foul although March slowed to draw the foul when I think he should have made tracks towards the goal.
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What was the worst ref decision today?
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Lyndhurst 14
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From former PL ref Keith Hackett
There are two different questions being asked here.
The thread title asks about the worst ref decision. The poll asks about the worst decision, which I'd take as being a combination of ref and subsequent VAR.
So, for me the worst *REF* decision was the Dunk non-penalty.
Attwell, to his credit, was pretty much perfectly-placed for both big penalty shouts, but we know he gave neither. I'm pretty much always willing to forgive an on-field ref for getting it wrong as they have a split-second single-angle full-speed view of top-class athletes who spend the entire game trying to con them.
So, I could see how he may not have given the Mitoma penalty in real-time.
I don't see how he could have missed the blatant two-handed pull on Dunk's shirt as he attempted to run onto an incoming cross. There's no player fakery possible there, it's obvious and blatant.
However, once you bring VAR into play, ie taking a more holistic view of a decision, then the Mitoma one is equally unfathomable. The VAR official would have had time to review multiple angles at multiple speeds, pretty much all of which would have shown it was an obvious foul. How he did not intervene is almost impossible to understand.
The thread title asks about the worst ref decision. The poll asks about the worst decision, which I'd take as being a combination of ref and subsequent VAR.
So, for me the worst *REF* decision was the Dunk non-penalty.
Attwell, to his credit, was pretty much perfectly-placed for both big penalty shouts, but we know he gave neither. I'm pretty much always willing to forgive an on-field ref for getting it wrong as they have a split-second single-angle full-speed view of top-class athletes who spend the entire game trying to con them.
So, I could see how he may not have given the Mitoma penalty in real-time.
I don't see how he could have missed the blatant two-handed pull on Dunk's shirt as he attempted to run onto an incoming cross. There's no player fakery possible there, it's obvious and blatant.
However, once you bring VAR into play, ie taking a more holistic view of a decision, then the Mitoma one is equally unfathomable. The VAR official would have had time to review multiple angles at multiple speeds, pretty much all of which would have shown it was an obvious foul. How he did not intervene is almost impossible to understand.