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[Misc] What The Hell Is A Gammon?



Titanic

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Herr Tubthumper

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Gammon is however you spin it a racial reference.

It has a racial element to it so yes, clearly it’s a racial reference. But this does not necessary mean it’s a racist reference. You seem to be conflating the two. And I’m pretty confident it’s not used in a racist manner in the vast majority of cases.
 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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No. It Is an insult. It is not racism.

It’s definitely heading that way. I’d definitely steer clear of using already just to be safe. It’s yet to be made so because these things take time but in a few years, there’s no way liberal voices like the BBC will let it be thrown about in the way it is currently allowed. It’ll be deemed part of everyday hate speech such as white trash and other racist anti-white language which despite everyone playing down does still exist and isn’t excusable just because it might be less publicised. If you haven’t noticed the ever growing lexicon of what’s acceptable and what isn’t over time but especially in the age of social media then you’re being naive. Wasn’t so long ago calling someone a Nazi wouldn’t bat an eyelid. Now, you’d lose your job. And that can be nothing to do with race, it’s just deemed socially unacceptable - just ask [MENTION=17322]Lenny Rider[/MENTION]!
 


daveinplzen

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racism
noun [ U ] politics disapproving

uk /ˈreɪ.sɪ.zəm/ us /ˈreɪ.sɪ.zəm/

(also UK old-fashioned racialism)


B2
the belief that people's qualities are influenced by their race and that the members of other races are not as good as the members of your own, or the resulting unfair treatment of members of other races:

Hope this helps.
 




Machiavelli

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I really have to disagree with point c. We (if I include myself as a Boomer for the sake of argument) were really concerned. We used to have earnest discussions about the 'ecosphere' (as we used to call the overall environment), we were worried about intensive farming and the use of pesticides such as DDT. And we were REALLY worried about pollution.

That's not everybody obviously, some were just happy to live in the supermarket society, but the idea that no one cared about the environment (or did anything about it) until about 1990 is total bollocks. (Not that you're saying that, but in these discussions it's often implied if not actually stated). And no we didn't do anything specific about climate change, but then the Victorians weren't that hot on Gay Rights either. Each generation deals with what it thinks is wrong and tries to change it.

I think you've just confirmed my point for me, although you could do it again, by answering these questions (and reflecting on the answers):

Are carbon emissions currently increasing or decreasing? And is the rate of increase increasing or declining?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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A detailed answer is worked up? I am niether pro or anti Gammon or soy face, I am facinated by these memes though.

Fascinated by the term gammon; I think you need to get out a bit more.
 




Soylent Blue

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It has a racial element to it so yes, clearly it’s a racial reference. But this does not necessary mean it’s a racist reference. You seem to be conflating the two. And I’m pretty confident it’s not used in a racist manner in the vast majority of cases.

For the second time, I have not stated it is racist, it has the potential to be so but isn't in my opinion. there is issues of standards, or double standards, the issues of targetting people in a perjorative manner (A blustering, drunk middle aged whiteman whos been at the port with alleged antiquated views) but I dont see any racism but it is racially based.
 


























pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Its just a term used for some white people - nothing to see here.
Nothing wrong with whites as a race, as individuals they can be angry triggered bellends like anyone else, (see The Clamp)
 




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