[Albion] What should the club do about yesterday's game?

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Brighton supporter on 6-0-6 now....

Caller: "If they are going to apologise we should be given a point"

Sutton: "so, what if they don't apologize?"

Savage is blaming it on VAR "because when we played...there was no video evidence....and now there is it makes bad decisions worse". f***ing genius. Twat.

Caller: "VAR means we are not enjoying the game"

Savage "You made some fantastic points"

With this level of public debate on national radio . . . . embarrassing.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

We should withdraw from all competitions in a fit of pique and close the club down.

This is just pathetic.

 

[pure_white]

We have had 'Fergie time' (attached to manure) now i think we have 'VAR time' (attached to BHA)

 

[Sheebo]

I would welcome a statement. It’s about the 5th time at least we’ve been wrongly robbed of probable points. Remember the Welbeck one at Leicester too - the Palace debacle - the Liverpool red which admittedly didn’t matter in the end - there’s more I’m sure.

 

[Sheebo]

Assuming you mean the goal line technology failure.

Sheff Utd finished 9th that season. It was Villa who benefited from that decision both in the match and in the final table, it cost Bournemouth as they were relegated. Had the goal been given (and you subscribe to the theory that absolutely nothing else changed as a result) Villa would have been relegated.

* Probably / possibly relegated

 

[Driver8]

VAR adds nothing to the game, just takes away the spontaneity. It doesn’t result in better decisions.

Just bin it.

 

[Seagull27]

The club should ask for the match to be replayed. They should also ask ALL other PL teams to give their opinion on what should happen. It would then show if there is a divide of the top 6 etc and the honesty and 'gamesmanship' in the PL. If the match is refused to be replayed they should make a stand against the PL, I'm not sure exactly what but it would need to be unprecedented never occurred before even if it forced a fine upon the club they need to make a stand against. If there is a financial consequence e.g. no Euro place and the income missed out on then any money passed from club to PL they should withhold same said amount. Ultimately BHA need to get top lawyers involved.

606 BHA fan on now wants BHA awarded a point. Robbie Savage said its ruining the game these VAR decisions/non-decisions. On a somewhat separate point the BHA fan (Pete) says VAR spoils the experience for fans IN the ground compared to watching on TV (i.e. as in 'knowing' what's going on in the moment).

Unfortunately it's pretty much impossible for the FA/PGMOL to agree for our match to be replayed as it sets a precedent - there will be other VAR decisions that are less dubious but the aggrieved club will expect the game to be replayed.

 

[pure_white]

Unfortunately it's pretty much impossible for the FA/PGMOL to agree for our match to be replayed as it sets a precedent - there will be other VAR decisions that are less dubious but the aggrieved club will expect the game to be replayed.

I agree it wont be replayed BUT I still think out of principle we should request it is and get support from as many other football clubs as possible. What happened yesterday is destroying the game its no longer 'beautiful'.

 

[Triggaaar]

We’re not unique. I may be wrong, but Sheffield United I believe went down the season they had a legitimate goal disallowed against Villa that cost them the match.

That was one goal that had huge consequences. But it was easy to understand because it was one single mistake. Brighton were denied 5 or 6 possible goals yesterday due to officiating. Not one goal, 5 or 6!

 

[London Irish]

We aren't the first club to get shafted by officials who aren't good enough this season and I doubt we'll be the last. Rather than scweam and scweam the real issue is attracting top class talent into the ref profession, which is a tough nut to crack really and requires a lot of thought. I feel for the lads who routinely get shouted at by parents when they run my lads' Sussex league under 16 games, why anyone does it frequently baffles me

 

[Sheebo]

We aren't the first club to get shafted by officials who aren't good enough this season and I doubt we'll be the last. Rather than scweam and scweam the real issue is attracting top class talent into the ref profession, which is a tough nut to crack really and requires a lot of thought. I feel for the lads who routinely get shouted at by parents when they run my lads' Sussex league under 16 games, why anyone does it frequently baffles me

I’m pretty sure we are the only ones who have had 3 apologies for blatant incompetence and a bell of a lot of other shocking decisions go against us with VAR in operation. In fact I’d say it’s almost fact. I knew there would be the odd poster inexplicably trying to defend it or call their fellow fans spurs grapers / moaners. Don’t be that guy!

 

[Triggaaar]

Scream and scream until we're sick?

I've not tried that. I tried drinking and drinking until I was sick. It was a short term fix.

What do you suggest we do?

I'm concluding that I'm not the best person to ask.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Spurs fan now....thinks the ref didn't give one of our penalties because he thinks that if the ref misses a pen then VAR will alert him. So the problem is the VAR official who decided the ref hadn't made a clear and obvious error.

If the pen had been given though VAR would not have overruled it.

One problem therefore is the rubric that puts the ref in charge.

People complaining about refs checking slo-mos, and this 'ruining the game' are ultimately responsible for the rubric change that pressures the officials into rushing decision. That said, it was a clear and obvious error so the VAR man should be sacked. I can only imagine he was having a piss when he was supposed to be watching his screen.

To be honest I'm bored with this now. We won't get a resolution.

Incidentally, fed up with Savage. He's just laughing about this. At least Sutton is taking it seriously.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I’m pretty sure we are the only ones who have had 3 apologies for blatant incompetence and a bell of a lot of other shocking decisions go against us with VAR in operation. In fact I’d say it’s almost fact. I knew there would be the odd poster inexplicably trying to defend it or call their fellow fans spurs grapers / moaners. Don’t be that guy!

One is coincidence.
Twice is happenstance
Three times is enemy action.

 

[Sheebo]

One is coincidence.
Twice is happenstance
Three times is enemy action.

I know I can naturally wear the blue and white specs with my passion… but hearing all the neutrals, pundits (ex players) and even the ref board on 3 / 4 / 5 occasions says all you need to know about our luck. Yesterday, however, was absolutely criminal. You just knew every decision wasn’t gonna be given our way - I said it right from that first handball - ok if that’s not handball just be consistent… didn’t happen.

 

[Justice]

Whilst it’s Simon Jordan the tanned Palace one has a point, the PL clubs can vote VAR out of the game if they wished to.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Whilst it’s Simon Jordan the tanned Palace one has a point, the PL clubs can vote VAR out of the game if they wished to.

Without VAR, yesterday Mitoma's goal would have been chalked off as the lino thinks a shoulder is a hand.
The second goal would have stood.
Both penalty shouts would have been waved away.

2-2

With an honest/competent referee and linesman and VAR official:
Mitoma's goal would have stood because the f***ing shoulder is not capable of doing a handball
The second goal would have stood because it wasn't a f***ing handball. Not at all. VAR man was guessing.
Both penalty shouts would have been reviewed and the kick, and possibly the shirt pull, would have been given
And Ali Mac may have been given two yellows and off for stamping on feet. Except VAR doesn't check those.

4-2 or 5-2 to the Albion
Not missed chances but useless refereeing. Not using VAR properly.

Clubs know VAR is useful, just as speed cameras are useful. You would only vote it away if you thought it would give you, your club, an advantage over others. To me, binning VAR (instead of fixing the rubric) would be a cheats charter and would give a big boost to the referees' big club (unconscious) bias. Manchester United went 10 years without conceding a penalty at home when Fergy was manager. Statistically, that's absolutely shitehouse.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

That was one goal that had huge consequences. But it was easy to understand because it was one single mistake. Brighton were denied 5 or 6 possible goals yesterday due to officiating. Not one goal, 5 or 6!

I'm not sure that was easy to understand. It might have been one mistake but it was immediately obvious to just about everybody (unlike a couple of ours yesterday, which you could at least throw the "subjective decision" card at).

 

[zefarelly]

That was one goal that had huge consequences. But it was easy to understand because it was one single mistake. Brighton were denied 5 or 6 possible goals yesterday due to officiating. Not one goal, 5 or 6!

This is the bigger issue that others are scared of.

Shef Utd were robbed, it was one mistake, shit happens . . . Technology was there and wasnt used properly. That makes it extremely harsh.

there have been lots of games where one, maybe 2 'mistakes' have been made, on average they probably even out . . . Yesterday was lots of 'mistakes' which sets alarm bells ringing.

I sincerely hope, and fully expect, Tony to be at home, cooler than a cucumber that's been under a wooly mammoth for hundreds of years . . . His mainframe whirring away . . . Putting together some details and stats that mathematically prove what should have happened yesterday. And hopefully what will happen . . . The officials get hung drawn and quartered. The FA stripped of any officiating (they're the biggest archaic problem) and Harry Kane gets 3 toes (of his own choice) cut off with a rusty hacksaw. Just because

Its not just little ole Brighton, its the whole PL that needs sorting out. Officiating is appalling. End of.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Refuse to play another game until an investigation has been launched into the match officials and VAR team. I’m dead serious. Enough is enough.

We’ve already got a fixture backlog