[Albion] What is the point? (Warning: Probably being dramatic)

[PILTDOWN MAN]

We could be Liverpool look on the bright side

 

[Questions]

‘We all need to pull together’ I constantly hear….…. F u k off

 

[BBassic]

I took some time away from football.

Gave up my ST at the end of the pre-COVID season. Reasons were largely financial but also I'd found myself getting really quite angry.

The glare of the Premier League.
The obscene money.
The arrogance of fans.
Twitter tossers bantzing their hearts out.
The knowledge we'd never be 'big', whatever that means.

It was getting me down. Which had me drinking more on match days and that wasn't helping either. So I knocked it on the head.

Followed the matches on the radio or via dodgy stream. Until COVID hit and that also stopped for a bit.

But the COVID years gave me time to reflect and this season I got my ticket back. Literally my old seat as well

Because, I'd realised, football for me isn't about being 'big' or worrying about the machinations of the Sinister Six or having to give a shit about what MUFan666 on Twitter has to say about how tinpot we are.

It's about getting together with my aging father and my mates and having a laugh with them for a few hours every other Saturday.

So this shit today sucks. But it won't always and the things that matter, for me, make it all ok.

I've had a glass of wine or two, apologies for the ramble.

 

[BN41Albion]

I think this might be the thing that breaks me from football once and for all. I've stopped enjoying other football games that the Albion aren't a part of, now I think I might be done full stop. What's the point of supporting a club if we can't try and get to the top. We're just going to have our best players, coaches and managers poached by the big clubs if we do well, then what's the point. Even Leicester has been ripped apart and look like relegation candidates. I genuinely feel low enough to be done with football.

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Don't feel quite as low as you but I am certainly feeling even more fed up with top level football than I was before after today. Is this really all we have to look forward to? Constantly having our players poached if they look good after half a dozen games/our coaches poached if we dare to look half decent for a season? Feels like we're just doing the dirty work for the money clubs all of a sudden and we've reached our ceiling.

Football really is toss thesedays - those big clubs will stay big forever now what with so much money at the top (all that talk of united in 'crisis' just a few weeks ago but now quelle surprise they're up the top again winning games) with the odd sleeping giant club selling their soul every so often and joining them like Chelsea, then city all those years ago and now newcastle, creating an even more closed shop of clubs finishing top of the pile in various orders.

What's the ****ing point?

 

[Machiavelli]

That’s the thing, at least in the lower leagues there’s teams going up and down and variables, in the Prem it’s basically this cycle for anyone who isn’t a top 5/6 club

Finally get a decent long term manager
Team gets picked of its best talent as the manager progresses the team
Manager becomes a target (and almost always takes his entire coaching staff)

I just think the whole thing really stinks, it’s hard to imagine how a club ever breaks the monotony of the money rich clubs, when they have the power to just pick apart clubs who could become a threat to them.

I think [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] might be able to give some input on how Swansea fans reacted to us poaching Potter. It's probably worth invoking one of his favourite phrases: "It is what it is". Whether it should be is an entirely different question.

 

[S'hampton Seagull]

I took some time away from football.

Gave up my ST at the end of the pre-COVID season. Reasons were largely financial but also I'd found myself getting really quite angry.

The glare of the Premier League.
The obscene money.
The arrogance of fans.
Twitter tossers bantzing their hearts out.
The knowledge we'd never be 'big', whatever that means.

It was getting me down. Which had me drinking more on match days and that wasn't helping either. So I knocked it on the head.

Followed the matches on the radio or via dodgy stream. Until COVID hit and that also stopped for a bit.

But the COVID years gave me time to reflect and this season I got my ticket back. Literally my old seat as well

Because, I'd realised, football for me isn't about being 'big' or worrying about the machinations of the Sinister Six or having to give a shit about what MUFan666 on Twitter has to say about how tinpot we are.

It's about getting together with my aging father and my mates and having a laugh with them for a few hours every other Saturday.

So this shit today sucks. But it won't always and the things that matter, for me, make it all ok.

I've had a glass of wine or two, apologies for the ramble.

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[Weststander]

So we’ve lost 2 of our best players to bigger sides this summer and one of them last summer, I’ve kind of accepted that’s part of the progression.

When you actually think about it, without a ridiculous money injection how can a club ever break into the so called ‘big clubs’? As soon as anyone lower down the league appears to be making a good run at anything all the vultures come in and take what has taken us to where we are?

Like I said in the thread title, probably a bit dramatic but sometimes you look at football and just think how broken it is, how can a club ever break into the ‘big club’ bollocks?

Over dramatic or is it all a bit disheartening?

I agree, victims of TB's astuteness, it's fkn shit to be raided en masse for staff and players. Can't quite recall anything like this in the EPL for a club in no way struggling.

Did Stains lose a great coach, 2 star first teamers and a technical director in 7 months or less?

And we know MacA and Caicedo will be next.

Almost wanting Bloom not to be so bloody good at his job.

 

[Insel affe]

Don't feel quite as low as you but I am certainly feeling even more fed up with top level football than I was before after today. Is this really all we have to look forward to? Constantly having our players poached if they look good after half a dozen games/our coaches poached if we dare to look half decent for a season? Feels like we're just doing the dirty work for the money clubs all of a sudden and we've reached our ceiling.

Football really is toss thesedays - those big clubs will stay big forever now what with so much money at the top (all that talk of united in 'crisis' just a few weeks ago but now quelle surprise they're up the top again winning games) with the odd sleeping giant club selling their soul every so often and joining them like Chelsea, then city all those years ago and now newcastle, creating an even more closed shop of clubs finishing top of the pile in various orders.

What's the ****ing point?

This is how I feel, I read someone else’s post, think Christ I’m not that bad, start to reply from a positive angle like “it is was it is” & we’re lucky to be here stance and gradually get more depressed thinking and writing about it, and end up with the same as you…

It’s a closed shop basically and your doomed to failure so what’s the point, it’s all Bollox

 

[Baldseagull]

I am more relaxed about the possibility of Potter moving on, I don't want it, and still hopeful that he stays, but he is not the only gut that can get a team playing well and win matches. We have something very few other clubs have, a real fan as Chairman, with huge ambition but who wants to build it rather than just buy it.
This situation could be like losing Bissouma and finding Caicedo.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

On a more positive note I am glad its GPott about to leave the building and not Uncle Tony.

 

[BN41Albion]

This is how I feel, I read someone else’s post, think Christ I’m not that bad, start to reply from a positive angle like “it is was it is” & we’re lucky to be here stance and gradually get more depressed thinking and writing about it, and end up with the same as you…

It’s a closed shop basically and your doomed to failure so what’s the point, it’s all Bollox

Yeah I think I started that post saying 'I don't feel quite as low as you' but by the time I'd finished i felt as low as him

 

[Surport Local Team]

Gone from 10 sunday and loving football, to now feeling disgusted by it

Also got to feel for Billy Gilmore, one of the main reasons to come to brighton was the draw of working with potter. If he had stayed at Chelsea he would have done!

 

[sparkie]

Just once, wouldn't it be nice if an individual didn't leave despite the money on offer ?

 

[raymondo]

Just once, wouldn't it be nice if an individual didn't leave despite the money on offer ?

It would be nice,and he hasn't left yet.

 

[GloryDays]

So we’ve lost 2 of our best players to bigger sides this summer and one of them last summer, I’ve kind of accepted that’s part of the progression.

When you actually think about it, without a ridiculous money injection how can a club ever break into the so called ‘big clubs’? As soon as anyone lower down the league appears to be making a good run at anything all the vultures come in and take what has taken us to where we are?

Like I said in the thread title, probably a bit dramatic but sometimes you look at football and just think how broken it is, how can a club ever break into the ‘big club’ bollocks?

Over dramatic or is it all a bit disheartening?

I agree. But that's football. If Cucu didn't score against United he would still be invisible to the top 6 as well (maybe they would notice his hair actually). But my point is there is a ceiling at clubs like us, Soton, Palace because rarely do people hang around long enough to see it work out. In the grand scheme of things Potter is a long serving manager. It just frustrates me how once it clicked it was also inevitably the end of the journey. Newcastle / Ashworth was the start. We've kinda had out moment in the sun.

We're currently in a great position but at the end of the season the main thing for Brighton is that we are still in the division. Everything else is (supposed to be) entertainment.

 

[GloryDays]

Gone from 10 sunday and loving football, to now feeling disgusted by it

Also got to feel for Billy Gilmore, one of the main reasons to come to brighton was the draw of working with potter. If he had stayed at Chelsea he would have done!

I'm sure we can cut them a deal. £65m sounds about right.

 

[rogersix]

Just once, wouldn't it be nice if an individual didn't leave despite the money on offer ?

if there's a man a to do it, it's got to be potter!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Indeed, what is the point.

 

[Machiavelli]

I think this might be the thing that breaks me from football once and for all. I've stopped enjoying other football games that the Albion aren't a part of, now I think I might be done full stop. What's the point of supporting a club if we can't try and get to the top. We're just going to have our best players, coaches and managers poached by the big clubs if we do well, then what's the point. Even Leicester has been ripped apart and look like relegation candidates. I genuinely feel low enough to be done with football.

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95% of clubs in the 92 have no chance of getting to the top. It's been that way since the PL came in, exacerbated further by the CL. Still, last season we finished very near the top of the rest, and we're currently exceeding even the top of the rest. Chin up. We've also played the most thrilling football for over three years. Tony won't be able to find someone with Potter's qualities, but he'll find someone with different qualities, and watching those bedding in will retain my interest. Hope you come round.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Totally agree with the OP. What is the flipping point? We have dragged ourselves up from the bottom over the last 25 years and finally got ourselves into a place where we could actually dream of reaching previously unheard of heights only to get asset stripped by a bunch of clueless goons whose only appealing feature is a huge bag of cash that can paper over the cracks of their own inadequacies.

I still hope again hope that Potter will not be impressed by what Chelsea have to offer but if he does go I'll feel sick. This will set us back and potentially ruin our season. I may calm down as this situation unfolds, but right now in this moment I am feeling over flipping dramatic.

This.