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[Albion] What haven't we learnt?



Seasidesage

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May 19, 2009
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What we haven't learned from last season? That its quite hard to beat a top four side who spent another £200m on world class players in the summer judging by some of the posts on here. If you cannot see the encouraging signs from that performance last night where we matched said top four side for over 2/3rds of the game but were undone by a mistake, a 25yrd worldie and a deflection while creating some good chances of our own you are watching the wrong team. I say watching as you sure as hell aren't supporting them...
 




Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Not learnt that when in sight of goal, you only get one bite of the cherry in the PL so hit the damn ball immediately

I think we did have a pop quite a few times but defenders got in the way.

I refuse to beat myself or the team up about last night. Some of our intricate play was a joy to watch and we looked a decent PL team lacking a cutting edge (50 million pound striker) and we have a couple of mistakes in us which always seem to get punished.

I am desperately hoping we get a biggish mobile striker but I fear disappointment is coming my way.

Brighton in a relegation scrap, who’d have thunk it?
 


BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
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We equalise and always sit back for some reason, was screaming at the telly last night and then the obvious happened. GP mentioned the same after the game.

After our equaliser, I was sitting on the sofa saying to myself, ' now don't go and let the buggers score'. Barely had I finished those thoughts and 'bang'.:down:
 


BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
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I think we did have a pop quite a few times but defenders got in the way.

I refuse to beat myself or the team up about last night. Some of our intricate play was a joy to watch and we looked a decent PL team lacking a cutting edge (50 million pound striker) and we have a couple of mistakes in us which always seem to get punished.

I am desperately hoping we get a biggish mobile striker but I fear disappointment is coming my way.

Brighton in a relegation scrap, who’d have thunk it?

It didn't help that Maupay had an off day, either.
 


Steve in Japan

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The fact that the once unthinkable is now being openly discussed tells you all you need to know about our striker recruitment prospects.

Welcome back Florin. And don't forget to keep your appointments with our newly appointed Head of Anger Management.
 




Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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I wonder if this player we're looking for actually exists sometimes..

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Tim Over Whelmed

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I think Potter, Ashworth, Barber are all aware of our difficulties in scoring goals, but goalscorers, proper proven goalscorers cost an awful lot of money and their aren't a plethora of them around so at the level the club are at they will very much want to do their due diligence in making sure we get the right one(s). The pre season was truncated and we're not the only squad in the league that is undercooked in one or two positions but with a good deal of time in the transfer window we will get someone in, as take that once famously said just have a little patience. To say the club haven't learned this is completely false but knowing it and then doing something about it to put it right are two completely different things and one is much more difficult than the other.

In three seasons?
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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A striker you say? Bloody hell, you're on to something there. I can't believe nobody has thought of this. Call up the club to let them know about this fabulous idea.

Apologies for raising a football topic, about Brighton, on NSC, stating what we've got right and the one thing, for the past three seasons, we haven't corrected. You're right, silly me:

Cheese 'n' Pickle and Plain Crisps

Always fold, never scrunch

and, yes, I do have a Ring doorbell!
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Back in 2002 we started the season with two strikers - Zamora and Gary Hart. Bobby got injured in game 3, we went on a bad run, never recovered and got relegated, so when Maupay got injured last night my heart was in my mouth.

Yes, Trossard can finish but this side needs his creativity and if he, Lamptey and - occasionally - March are going to put crosses in we need someone who can head the ball at the goal.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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What we haven't learned from last season? That its quite hard to beat a top four side who spent another £200m on world class players in the summer judging by some of the posts on here. If you cannot see the encouraging signs from that performance last night where we matched said top four side for over 2/3rds of the game but were undone by a mistake, a 25yrd worldie and a deflection while creating some good chances of our own you are watching the wrong team. I say watching as you sure as hell aren't supporting them...

What makes a good supporter?

20 year season ticket holder, forty note fund contributor, attending marches, sending letters to public enquiries, spending thousands attending away games .... I'm just asking "for a friend".

I am as much a fan as the next one, no better and certainly no worse, but I will question the board, the manager, the team when I feel something's not right and hasn't been right since we entered the EPL. You can say give them time, you should support them more, whatever that means, but the fact of the matter is we've stayed up for three seasons by the skin of our teeth and started season four without a proven striking set up, fact.
 


Seasidesage

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What makes a good supporter?

20 year season ticket holder, forty note fund contributor, attending marches, sending letters to public enquiries, spending thousands attending away games .... I'm just asking "for a friend".

I am as much a fan as the next one, no better and certainly no worse, but I will question the board, the manager, the team when I feel something's not right and hasn't been right since we entered the EPL. You can say give them time, you should support them more, whatever that means, but the fact of the matter is we've stayed up for three seasons by the skin of our teeth and started season four without a proven striking set up, fact.

When the window closes you have every right in fact you can do whatever floats your boat now. I am concerned about a striker as much as you or anyone else but people slagging everything off because we got beat by Chelsea in a game we played rather well in and is the 1st game of the season is just pathetic. Nunez fell through its going to take time to identify and agree terms with someone else.

I could go on about fan since the 70's, Gillingham etc etc. I didn't because the uber fan concept is sad. However, the over reaction to the Chelsea result reminded me of small children complaining about not getting enough easter eggs.
 




Tim Over Whelmed

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When the window closes you have every right in fact you can do whatever floats your boat now. I am concerned about a striker as much as you or anyone else but people slagging everything off because we got beat by Chelsea in a game we played rather well in and is the 1st game of the season is just pathetic. Nunez fell through its going to take time to identify and agree terms with someone else.

I could go on about fan since the 70's, Gillingham etc etc. I didn't because the uber fan concept is sad. However, the over reaction to the Chelsea result reminded me of small children complaining about not getting enough easter eggs.

Cool, take your points (first game '67 BTW, you'd think we'd have learnt by now!), my concern though isn't the Chelsea game, it's not recognising that every season in the EPL we've struggled to stay up and every season we've all been discussing how much we've developed but that a striker is the missing link, to start another season without one (or two in my opinion) isn't right, that's all, I'll go back and sit on my commode now!
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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When the window closes you have every right in fact you can do whatever floats your boat now. I am concerned about a striker as much as you or anyone else but people slagging everything off because we got beat by Chelsea in a game we played rather well in and is the 1st game of the season is just pathetic. Nunez fell through its going to take time to identify and agree terms with someone else.

I could go on about fan since the 70's, Gillingham etc etc. I didn't because the uber fan concept is sad. However, the over reaction to the Chelsea result reminded me of small children complaining about not getting enough easter eggs.
We should of beat Chelsea or at least drew if we hadn’t Shot ourselves in the foot yet again, more quality On the pitch could change that. I think that’s what’s frustrating.
 


zefarelly

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I agree with Tim O W we've been whinging it 3 years, and we start season 4 arguably in our worst position yet from a goal scoring point of view on head count

However, we do have a years more experience in the players we do have which is invaluable at this level particularly for the younger players.

We have obviously had money to spend, I think my main frustration is how and where thats been spent, it doesn't seem to have all been wisely invested ( or those investments well utilised) and it's also been disaproportionally spent at one end of the pitch. That's got nothing to do with CH, GP or any of the players per se.

doesn't matter how good your defence is, you need to score to win. . . that will be our downfall if we don't improve one way or another.
 




Acker79

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That the table largely follows wage bill, and if the owner wants a top 10 team, it will require players "deserving" of top 10 wages (give or take a position or two). If there's no willingness to put that much money into the club (and I wouldn't blame him if there isn't), perhaps stop telling the fans you're after top 10 football as it only raises expectations.
 




Seasidesage

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Cool, take your points (first game '67 BTW, you'd think we'd have learnt by now!), my concern though isn't the Chelsea game, it's not recognising that every season in the EPL we've struggled to stay up and every season we've all been discussing how much we've developed but that a striker is the missing link, to start another season without one (or two in my opinion) isn't right, that's all, I'll go back and sit on my commode now!

I'd need help to get on the commode.

I agree we need two rather than one striker and not to get one is a disaster but its not over yet. If the window closes and we have none. I will be at the front of the queue burning pitchfork in hand :lol:

Just think we might be keeping our powder dry until we become a more attractive option at the end of the window. Alternatively, we may be skint or mad who knows?
 


Birdie Boy

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Not sure if mentioned but we haven't learnt to tell Ryan not to pass the ball out in front of goal to a player surrounded by the opposition. Pass it out to the flanks or hoof it occasionally.
 






Tim Over Whelmed

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I would say a "supporter" who has seen and been through the times you have should have a seriously good look at themselves if they think "something is not right" given the fact that this is the most thoughtful, future proofed and best run the club has ever been - by a LONG MARGIN.

I don't disagree in so many ways but I fail to see why we've lost Locadia, Murray, Andone (long term injury / not wanted) etc and yet we don't seem to be bringing in any depth in that area, the season has started and if we'd seen Maupay injured against Chelski we'd now be royally screwed? It is, as I've said many times, my only concern.
 


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