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Caveman2012

New member
Jun 18, 2012
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That's a very good point I've never thought about it. But now you come to mention it.

The mccans left there daughter alone while they went out for a few drinks and a meal, the daughter disapeared and has never been found , are they in prison should they be allowed to have more children
 




Rich Suvner

Skint years RIP
Jul 17, 2003
2,500
Worthing
The mum needs to be supported to develop her sense of personal responsibility and to succeed as a mother.

she needs support - agreed
just surprised that some initial responses were so compassionate. mine was utter disgust. this individual was so selfish she spent a week thoroughly neglecting her child to such an extent it could EASILY have died. it wasn't a one off spur of the moment event, but something repeated several times.

yes, drugs may have been a factor. but even so, such a level of neglect warrants the child to protected and removed from this extreme environment of neglect/abuse
 
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Rich Suvner

Skint years RIP
Jul 17, 2003
2,500
Worthing
The mccans left there daughter alone while they went out for a few drinks and a meal, the daughter disapeared and has never been found , are they in prison should they be allowed to have more children

The McCanns f***ed up monumentally as parents. And I find their constant media presence an irritation to my sensibilities.
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
But after what she's done can she ever be trusted ever again.
I think it's obvious she has mental health problems.

Yes. If we want people who are lacking in personal responsibility to develop a sense of responsibility, we've got to give them the opportunity to succeed where they have previously failed and equip them with the tools that they are missing - obviously with stringent monitoring.
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
25,504
Worthing
My first thought was also one of compassion.
Make sure she is away from that child for a very long time and also while we're at it, sterilise the bitch.
 






dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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Cases like this and others will be exploited over time, until eventually, all children will be taken at birth to be raised by the state.

"Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world." - Vladimir Lenin
 






ROKERITE

Active member
Dec 30, 2007
723
My first thought was also one of compassion.
Make sure she is away from that child for a very long time and also while we're at it, sterilise the bitch.

Exactly, it seems no behaviour is so reprehensible that the bleeding heart guardianistas won't attempt to portray the perpetrator as a poor victim.
 


Goldstone Rapper

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Jan 19, 2009
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Exactly, it seems no behaviour is so reprehensible that the bleeding heart guardianistas won't attempt to portray the perpetrator as a poor victim.

Stop your hand-wringing. No one is attempting to portray the perpetrator as a poor victim. Victims have things done to them whereas the mum was clearly at the source of her actions, which is doubly why she needs to be equipped to comprehend the direct impact of her actions and make choices that don't harm others.

Nothing stops her having another child or being around someone else in the future that she could help / harm with her actions. Prison is not going to teach her parenting skills whereas anything that supports her to be a better parent and develop her sense of personal responsibility will have added benefits to how she is with others including the future children in her life.
 


Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
I think it tells me that there is an entire section of society that needs education, compassion and understanding. What it probably doesn't need is 15 months in prison.

It tells me that there is an entire section of society that needs to be sterilised.
 








Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
4,135
Bath, Somerset.
Exactly, it seems no behaviour is so reprehensible that the bleeding heart guardianistas won't attempt to portray the perpetrator as a poor victim.

Well, this 'bleeding heart guardianista' would quite happily see this woman, and other chavs like her, sterilised so they can't breed at all.

Sorry to confound your own prejudices :wink:
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Like Peever, my first response is one of a complete lack of surprise.

That's happening up and down the country.

She will get her child back, she may have the intelligence to talk her way through the social services.
She may well have more children.

Book mark 18 & 1/2 years time, for when it happens again.
Who knows it may well have happened to her.

There's no point being 'Daily Mail' outraged by this.
It will keep happening until such time as we, as a society, are prepared to go knee deep in other peoples sh*t.
Instead of just tutting from a safe distance.
 
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ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
All sorts of people who are ill-educated, have learning disabilities, or are not nice people, have kids. 99% of them know that you can't leave a baby at home by themselves, and are perfectly good parents. I don't buy the education aspect of this case. This girl was just a twat.

Oh, and I am also one of those lefty types.
 


00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
Its Ok to leave your kids alone whilst you go out boozing.

Then you have to start a huge media campaign, have millions of pounds donates to your cause, write a book and a serialisation in the Sun, and all will be well.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
You definitely can't legislate for twatism.

But more can always be done to help those most in need.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
You definitely can't legislate for twatism.

But more can always be done to help those most in need.

Absolutely - in fact that's what my wife does for a living and I have nothing but 100% time for helping parents who are struggling, particularly young single mothers. However, there is a line between not knowing 100% what is best for a child or being unable to cope with the pressure, and just making a deliberate decision to neglect. I'd say there are very few of the latter, but this is one.
 


Surrey_Albion

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Jan 17, 2011
2,867
Horley
Totally agree I think maybe it should be part of the national curriculum also parenting that and high risk adults should be made to take a course.


IMHO it is these kind of comments that is the reason society is so s***! unemployed blokes getting young girls pregnant and not helping, young girls giving birth for a free ride and a council house, theiving dirty scum bags but "its not there fault" bollocks its the left wing nanny state and politically correct brigade that has given these scumbags the right to be scumbags and therefore no morals left in society, "shes 20 with four kids from different dads and is only interested in partying but its not here fault society should be nice to her" f*** THAT!!, we as a society need to forget political correctness and tell soial f*** up that there behaviour is fking wrong! they dont need help they need to be told they are fking wronguns!!!


EDIT: Fail , apologies I wasnt qting you Caveman but the post you were qting
 


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