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What do you like most about our wonderful Tory Government?



vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
There should be Statutory Sick pay which all employers pay, which is £88.45 a week. Sick pay has usually been left to employers in the past and I was fortunate enough to be employed in jobs where it was paid.
https://www.gov.uk/employers-sick-pay/entitlement

In my younger days companies actually paid sick pay after a year or twos employment. If you didn't take the piss you would normally get full pay for sickness up to a period of a month or six weeks. Inevitably, with the demise of the unions and an increasingly greedy business fraternity this sadly is now a rare benefit. My company ( A well known High street brand ) pays sick pay at the discretion of the directors on an ad hoc basis as to whether your face fits or not.
 




OGH's Libido

New member
Nov 30, 2014
154
What I like is that they sorted the economy out.

I left in 2009 in fear of spinning my wheels, and now I've been offered a job so I'm coming back to the UK. I trust them to 'do a good job' and I feel confident that they are taking the deficit seriously.

What I don't like about them is that they cut welfare without seeming to be getting after corporate tax. Fixing corporate tax 'dodgers' requires an international (or pan EU) solution but I don't see any leadership from them on that.

So I'm coming home and am seriously thinking about signing up to join the Tories. I'm wary of them, but what's the use in complaining? They are the closest party to approximating my beliefs so I'd like to have a say. How will I sleep at night? I'm going to volunteer in my community. You can have it both ways.
 


DataPoint

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2015
450
I'm not Nibbles biggest fan but that really is a patronising response.

You understand this right?

Thought this was a fair response. Sorry Nibbles, but until you replace the deficit with a surplus the debt will grow! It's called arithmetic.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
What I like is that they sorted the economy out........... and I feel confident that they are taking the deficit seriously.

Well if you read many of the tremendously knowledgeable contributions in this thread apparently George Osbourne is a disastrous chancellor but as Britain is still one of the fastest growing economies in the G7 with record levels of employment and steady wage growth you may have a point.

So I'm coming home and am seriously thinking about signing up to join the Tories. I'm wary of them, but what's the use in complaining? They are the closest party to approximating my beliefs so I'd like to have a say. How will I sleep at night? I'm going to volunteer in my community. You can have it both ways.

Good for you, nice to see someone doing something constructive rather than moaning from the sidelines. :thumbsup:
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Thought this was a fair response. Sorry Nibbles, but until you replace the deficit with a surplus the debt will grow! It's called arithmetic.

Yes. That was NOT the point I was making.
 








alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
What I like is that they sorted the economy out.

I left in 2009 in fear of spinning my wheels, and now I've been offered a job so I'm coming back to the UK. I trust them to 'do a good job' and I feel confident that they are taking the deficit seriously.

What I don't like about them is that they cut welfare without seeming to be getting after corporate tax. Fixing corporate tax 'dodgers' requires an international (or pan EU) solution but I don't see any leadership from them on that.

So I'm coming home and am seriously thinking about signing up to join the Tories. I'm wary of them, but what's the use in complaining? They are the closest party to approximating my beliefs so I'd like to have a say. How will I sleep at night? I'm going to volunteer in my community. You can have it both ways.
What a great post.
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,201
I don't know how they got the reputation of competence. Haven't they tripled the national debt in 5 years? With George Osbourne accruing more debt than any Labour government in history, combined.

And all the while people still believe that they are the party of sensible spending, austerity and not spending beyond their means. Thats quite impressive.

They are definitely good at politics and good at persuading the electorate that being good at politics is the same as being good at running a country.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,201
That is true, but does that set them apart from the other parties, who are all self serving and would sell their grandmothers for a majority?

Nope.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,201








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
Surely if you look at most people's net wealth it would be in the minuses? Mine certainly is.

yep, why the obsession with wealth is wrong because there are so many distortions. the big issue seller is likely wealthier than the chap going to work buying a copy on his way, once accounting for debts. only when we get to the far end of middle age does it net positive for most.
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,688
With the vast majority of the tory government being made up of subservient goons, enthralled to the neo liberal capitalist agenda, yet still able to dupe 'hard working people' to vote for them is quite an impressive feat, even if I don't like it.
 




Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
With the vast majority of the tory government being made up of subservient goons, enthralled to the neo liberal capitalist agenda, yet still able to dupe 'hard working people' to vote for them is quite an impressive feat, even if I don't like it.

Unfortunately the Labour party forgot about the "hard working people" in it's 13 years at the helm, which is why many like myself who voted Labour in 1997 vowed not to vote for them again. Their open door policy which drove wages of our own "hard working people" down coupled with the result of this meaning that making benefits more attractive mean't for many it was better financially to be on benefits than work, and for what.....VOTES that is for what. It is no coincidence that unemployment has fallen because it is now for many more benefiting to be in work.
 


Leyton Gull

Banned
Sep 14, 2015
411
Unfortunately the Labour party forgot about the "hard working people" in it's 13 years at the helm, which is why many like myself who voted Labour in 1997 vowed not to vote for them again. Their open door policy which drove wages of our own "hard working people" down coupled with the result of this meaning that making benefits more attractive mean't for many it was better financially to be on benefits than work, and for what.....VOTES that is for what. It is no coincidence that unemployment has fallen because it is now for many more benefiting to be in work.
OK well let's see what your boys do then. Nothing so far after 5 and a half years.
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
17,355
Unfortunately the Labour party forgot about the "hard working people" in it's 13 years at the helm, which is why many like myself who voted Labour in 1997 vowed not to vote for them again. Their open door policy which drove wages of our own "hard working people" down coupled with the result of this meaning that making benefits more attractive mean't for many it was better financially to be on benefits than work, and for what.....VOTES that is for what. It is no coincidence that unemployment has fallen because it is now for many more benefiting to be in work.

In statistics, the technical term would, I think, be specious correlation. But more simply put, that doesn't necessarily add up. It is an easy assumption to make, but is not necessarily true.
 




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