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ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,251
brighton
The arrogance of the guy .

Ken Bates, having emerged victorious in the battle for Leeds United, last night turned on his rivals, labelling them “time-wasters” and “lesser mortals”. It also transpired that David Healy, the leading scorer last season, will not play again for the club because he refused to accept a wage deferral.

The Leeds chairman confirmed that he is still looking for investors and one source speculated that Bates would seek to sell the club towards the end of the year, when he will be free from any penalty clauses. Before that, there is the prospect of the saga ending up in the High Court, but the good news for supporters is that the creditors’ decision to approve Bates’s buy-back bid, confirmed after a recount gave him the required 75 per cent approval, has wiped away much of the Coca-Cola League One club’s £35 million debt.

The biggest loser, Astor Investment Holdings, actually backed Bates, but the Inland Revenue, which had issued a winding-up order, has lost out on £7 million.

Bates went on the offensive after his success, rounding on everyone from Duncan Revie, son of Don, the club’s legendary manager, to Healy, who has been linked with a move to Fulham. He also referred to Gerald Krasner, his predecessor as chairman, as a lesser mortal and dismissed the prospect of a legal challenge to the decision by saying: “You can’t go to court and say we don’t like it because Bates won.”

He added that he would issue a counter-writ for damages if a challenge does arise because “they will be damaging Leeds United”.

Nevertheless, Melvyn Levi, a former director, who was part of the Krasner consortium that sold to Bates in 2005, said: “The [rival] bidders will feel that they require to see whether they have a chance of getting this club back from the High Court. The margin was very small and if it was a general election, we would all be jumping up and down.”

Five other bids were made to KPMG, the administrators, and creditors who feel short-changed by the payout have 28 days to issue a challenge.

Bates would no doubt relish the chance to lock horns again with Levi as their long-running spat has been a bitter subplot to the joust for control of Leeds. Their relations soured to such a point that Bates called Levi “the enemy within” and then printed his home address in the club programme. “I don’t think he is the right man for the job,” Levi countered yesterday. “Mr Bates thinks he has got the club – we will see.”

Bates expects the Football League to rubber-stamp the deal at its board meeting tomorrow and lift the transfer embargo that has blighted the rebuilding plans of Dennis Wise, the manager. Meetings with potential investors are also lined up. “We’ve said for two years that we’re quite happy to have a partner, but we’ve met a lot of time-wasters,” Bates said. “Duncan Revie has never made an offer.”

Bates also said that Simon Morris, the property developer, who is worth an estimated £69 million, “knows my number”. Morris had tried to gazump Bates by offering creditors an initial 20 pence in the pound, 20 times Bates’s offer, after Friday’s original meeting. However, it was clear that Bates held all the aces, with the backing of Astor, which was owed £18 million and stood to make far more from backing Morris, and the Professional Footballers’ Association.

Yesterday’s reconvened meeting lasted five minutes and resulted in saw Bates’s share of the vote rising to 75.19 per cent. Richard Fleming, of KPMG, whose bill is now more than £250,000, said: “I am satisfied that, in voting to accept this proposal, the creditors have approved a solution that allows the club to plan ahead for next season, reduced uncertainty for all those with an interest in Leeds United, provided some return to creditors and avoids liquidation.”
 




Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
David Healy is an excellent young player, couldn't really see him dropping a division with Leeds, someone with that level of talent should be knocking on the door of Premiership clubs.
 


Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
6,733
Indeed, but he wanted to stay at Leeds for a season to try and get us back up and is absolutely devastated that KPMG have let it be known where the votes went, not just for him (and I am not sure why he has been singled out by Bates) but the other players as well who voted against Bates.
 


Starry said:
(and I am not sure why he has been singled out by Bates)

It's because he has the highest transfer value. By painting him as an enemy of the club, Bates gets the green light to sell him and bring in some instant cash. What a tosser that bloke is, why is it that these slimy little leaches always seem to come out on top in football?
 






ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,251
brighton
Starry said:
I am not sure he does have the highest transfer value though.

who does then ?
 


Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
6,733
Chelsea are still hankering after Rose, they paid us £2m each for the others and are prepared to match that for him. I am not sure we'd get anywhere near that for Healy.
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,827
By the seaside in West Somerset
Bates must rate as the lowest form of pond life currently in league football. Good luck to the fans but any success they now have will be tainted by the feeling that they have cheated their way to it
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,927
England
Gully said:
David Healy is an excellent young player, couldn't really see him dropping a division with Leeds, someone with that level of talent should be knocking on the door of Premiership clubs.

hes 27/28
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,641
Starry said:
Indeed, but he wanted to stay at Leeds for a season to try and get us back up and is absolutely devastated that KPMG have let it be known where the votes went, not just for him

He may well have said that, but what he says and what he does are two different things.

Can't help thinking he's telling you lot what you want to hear- if you think his agent hasn't already been touting him around to eager Championship clubs looking for a proven striker at a reasonable price, then you're deluding yourselves.

He knows it's in his interest to at least appear vaguely supportive of Leeds United, that way keeping the fans on side and ensuring any loyalty type bonuses he's entitled to are safe. He also knows he could walk out any time he wants and there's nothing Leeds can do to stop him.
 








surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,163
Bevendean
Starry said:
he is absolutely devastated that KPMG have let it be known where the votes went, not just for him (and I am not sure why he has been singled out by Bates) but the other players as well who voted against Bates.

why did KPMG say which way the votes went, as i said on another thread i thought it was an annonomous vote, surley he could get compensation from KPMG or LUFC
 


Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
6,733
edna krabappel said:
He may well have said that, but what he says and what he does are two different things.

Can't help thinking he's telling you lot what you want to hear- if you think his agent hasn't already been touting him around to eager Championship clubs looking for a proven striker at a reasonable price, then you're deluding yourselves.

He knows it's in his interest to at least appear vaguely supportive of Leeds United, that way keeping the fans on side and ensuring any loyalty type bonuses he's entitled to are safe. He also knows he could walk out any time he wants and there's nothing Leeds can do to stop him.

It runs a little deeper than what he says not being the truth. His agent has certainly touted him around.
 




Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
6,733
surrey jim said:
why did KPMG say which way the votes went, as i said on another thread i thought it was an annonomous vote, surley he could get compensation from KPMG or LUFC

I'm not going to comment any more on the legal rights or wrongs until the 28 days are up or a decision is made before that because it's not over yet and we aren't sure what we are doing.
 


Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
got court writen all over it no matter what Bates says.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,769
Chandlers Ford
surrey jim said:
why did KPMG say which way the votes went, as i said on another thread i thought it was an annonomous vote, surley he could get compensation from KPMG or LUFC

Brilliant £100k compensation from LUFC. At 1p in the pound he'll get a grand of it!
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,827
By the seaside in West Somerset
hans kraay fan club said:
Brilliant £100k compensation from LUFC. At 1p in the pound he'll get a grand of it!

with a bit of luck the breach of confidentiality could be construed as a an irretrievable break down in the relationship of trust between employer and employee.................which is ACAS speak for a free transfer.

If Healy tried this route Leeds would obviously go to a tribunal but after Bosman a league tribunal would be very unwise to ignore tried and tested employment law.....which would leave Leeds without a transfer fee for one of their primary assets. SHAME
 




withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
Lokki 7 said:
It's because he has the highest transfer value. By painting him as an enemy of the club, Bates gets the green light to sell him and bring in some instant cash. What a tosser that bloke is, why is it that these slimy little leaches always seem to come out on top in football?


..........AND end up as substitutes at the MK Dons.
 


Barry Izbak

U.T.A.
Dec 7, 2005
7,424
Lancing By Sea
Starry said:
I am not sure he does have the highest transfer value though.

Not any more he doesn't. Bates won't get what Healey was worth now.

The bloke's a tosser. I cannot believe LUFC fans are prepared to put up with him and the little Wise w4nker
 


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