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[Football] West Ham …. trophy winners



Eeyore

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Him and Sutton have a jovial relationship, but it's always struck me that there is an air of genuine bitterness from Savage with regards to how much decent work Sutton gets relative to him.

And it's obvious why. Sutton is generally good. Savage is generally shit.
Was that Savage tonight ? I rarely get annoyed about commentators and always stick up for them, but the faux exhortations and delight tonight was such an irritation to me.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Absolutely - look at how the largely hardened and cynical seen-it-all Moyes reacted to the win. Look how West Ham fans reacted to the win. For everyone involved with the club, tonight is a great achievement.

I can't be arsed to look it up now, but I think there's an escape route from the Europa League into the Europa Conference isn't there? I'd not be sniffy at all if, a year from now, we find ourselves where West Ham are tonight.

There is if you come lowly in the EL group stage table. Celtic take it, then crash and burn in the Conference too.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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All credit to West Ham for holding their nerve and taking their chances.

But it has to be said, Robbie Savage is an awful awful pundit. When you've been brought up on Barry Davies, Brian Moore and Jkhn Motson and you hear this dross it really is hard to stomach.
 


mile oak

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WHU have shown you can win big without being in the top 6. but hang on we are in the top 6! So we have WHU and Liverpool in Europa league not sure if the English teams are separated to start with, hope so and we got a taste tonight of what we can no go on and achieve at a higher level than WHU did tonight. Thanks to BT Sport for making the game available via their You Tube Channel I believe the Man C game at the weekend is too.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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WHU have shown you can win big without being in the top 6. but hang on we are in the top 6! So we have WHU and Liverpool in Europa league not sure if the English teams are separated to start with, hope so and we got a taste tonight of what we can no go on and achieve at a higher level than WHU did tonight. Thanks to BT Sport for making the game available via their You Tube Channel I believe the Man C game at the weekend is too.
Yes - teams from the same league are separated in the group stage.
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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I can see this argument back in the days when 10 out of 11 players were British with the odd Irishman or Norwegian thrown in.
But nowadays? Couldn't care less.
So that'd be the BHA squad which has...

Sanchez - Spain
van Hecke - Dutch
Estupinan - Ecuador
Lamptey - Ghana
Veltman - Dutch
Caicedo - Ecquador
Gross - Germany
Ali Mac- Argentina
Moder - Pole
Gilmour - Scotch
Ayari - Swede
Buananotte - Argentina
Sarmiento - Ecquador
Mitoma - Japan
Enciso - Paraguay
Ferguson - Oireland
Undav - Germany
Connolly - Wetherspoons

Are you saying that if this bunch of multinational reprobates bought home the Europa League trophy next year, you'd be "naaah...none of them ever played for Whitehawk"

Right-o
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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So that'd be the BHA squad which has...

Sanchez - Spain
van Hecke - Dutch
Estupinan - Ecuador
Lamptey - Ghana
Veltman - Dutch
Caicedo - Ecquador
Gross - Germany
Ali Mac- Argentina
Moder - Pole
Gilmour - Scotch
Ayari - Swede
Buananotte - Argentina
Sarmiento - Ecquador
Mitoma - Japan
Enciso - Paraguay
Ferguson - Oireland
Undav - Germany
Connolly - Wetherspoons

Are you saying that if this bunch of multinational reprobates bought home the Europa League trophy next year, you'd be "naaah...none of them ever played for Whitehawk"

Right-o
I've never claimed to support Brighton just because all the players happened to have been born in the Royal Sussex.
I've also never claimed to support West Ham or any other team British or otherwise, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
 






Klaas

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Was fooled by some clickbait YT video to watch a video of Moyes giving his medal to his 87 year old dad. Such emotional scenes, until you see him take it back and put it on his own neck again, just as camera cuts to something else.
Still, it was very weird seeing him (Moyes) smiling. Didn't know he had it in him.



*Just to be clear I don't begrudge him doing that at all, comment is directed at the tv channel.
 










Hugo Rune

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talk about boring, I wouldn’t want to watch that anti-football every week, Moyes is a dinosaur.
I just couldn’t get my head around all those long balls (especially goal kicks) that West Ham played. They lost possession most of the time when they did that. Who wants to watch a team that basically, wants the opposition to have the ball? Rubbish.

We were ranked 2nd in the Premier League for possession. I’ve got so used to seeing us have the ball most of the time, I’d find it very difficult to go back to the days of Hughton. Entitled? You bet!
 






nicko31

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West Ham are embroiled in a multi-million pound secret legal battle with owners of the London Stadium, who have spent more than £7million of taxpayers’ money already on lawyers’ fees in tussles with the club, In The Money can reveal.

This newspaper has learned that a new and secret spat between the publicly funded London Legacy Development Corporation (LLDC) and the club, who is its principle tenant, is ongoing and will only add to that figure.

We can also reveal the true cost to taxpayers of what was the Olympic Stadium will reach £1BILLION before the end of this decade.

Lyn Garner, CEO of the LLDC, told a recent London assembly meeting there was ‘a continuing, significant financial and legal dispute with West Ham.’

Sources have confirmed this revolves around how much money LLDC are due from an investment in the club by Czech businessman Daniel Kretinsky in November 2021. Kretinsky paid £168.75m for a 27 per cent stake in West Ham.


West Ham are in a secret battle with the LLDC over the London Stadium and it's lease

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Under the terms of the stadium lease, West Ham had to pay LLDC a fee if the club’s owners financially benefited from the move to the stadium within 10 years of signing the agreement, for example by selling part of the club, a period which ended last Friday. The Kretinsky investment was inside the 10-year period that began when West Ham signed their deal in March 2013, to move in from the 2016-17 season.

West Ham have paid LLDC a penalty clause worth £2.6m, but the LLDC, who have repeatedly said West Ham’s tenancy is a drain on the public purse, believe they are contractually due more. The exact sum is not in the public domain but it is understood the agreement between the parties specifies a figure or percentage that LLDC are due as a ‘Stadium Premium Amount’.


The revelation of the spat comes as a shock as it was thought relations between the two parties had thawed considerably. But the MoS has learned that the taxpayer has spent £7.1m (and rising) on legal fees since the club was awarded its lease.

As long ago as 2018, Garner revealed the extraordinary extent to which West Ham received ‘free’ services as part of their £2.5m annual rent; they pay nothing towards stewarding, heating, maintenance, cleaning, or even equipment, such as goalposts and nets. Nor do they pay catering staff, and while LLDC, or rather the LLDC subsidiary company (called E20 Stadium LLP) pocket food and drink revenues, West Ham have financial advantages most clubs do not have.

The Hammers moved to the former Olympic Stadium in 2016 leaving their Upton Park home
The club declined to comment on the ongoing case although they and supporters have generally argued that at least London 2012 did not end up with a post-Games white elephant.

The ongoing cost has continued to be a bugbear for Garner and the LLDC, however. The Government used £486m to build the stadium and spent the majority of an additional £274m to convert if after the Games. West Ham paid £15m of that, while Newham Council contributed £40m.

Yet on top of that £760m, E20 Stadium have made consistent losses since West Ham moved in, of between £19.6m and £29.1m per year. Large chunks of those losses are effectively spent subsidising West Ham.

Losses of ‘only’ £10m a year going forward are seen as ‘extremely optimistic’ by the London Assembly in official documents, and are likely to remain closer to £20m a year. At that rate, spending on the stadium (most of it public money) will reach £1bn by 2029.
£274m to convert that stadium - scandalous and WH continue to pay peppercorn rents
 


hart's shirt

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West Ham have become the first English team to win more games in a European competition than in the Premier League in a single season.

The club won 12 Europa Conference League games and 11 league matches this campaign.


(Opta Stat on BBC Sport)
 


Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
With West Ham in Pot 1 we now know who we are playing and can book some hotel rooms.
1 of 6 clubs on 1 of 6 dates means booking 36 hotel rooms with cancelation options.
I've nothing to do next week, may just do it.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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West Ham have become the first English team to win more games in a European competition than in the Premier League in a single season.

The club won 12 Europa Conference League games and 11 league matches this campaign.


(Opta Stat on BBC Sport)
If you include the playoff round they won 14 of the 15 games they played in the Conference League this season. The only blemish on their record is a 1-1 draw away to Ghent in the QFs.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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I don't get the negativity towards this competition.

The conference league is more or less a direct replacement for the cup-winners cup isn't it?
Winning that used to be considered a big deal.
I agree, a comp certainly worth winning. It is in its infancy.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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talk about boring, I wouldn’t want to watch that anti-football every week, Moyes is a dinosaur.
A European competition-winning dinosaur, though ???

I say good luck to them. For the fans (the decent ones – not the berks who threw plastic cups, vapes and whatever else came to hand), it's something to celebrate, regardless of how the competition is viewed. I think I read somewhere that Moyes himself said that he didn't WANT to play like that, but it was the best way to counter the opposition. Who knows, but regardless, they were victorious and – from what a lot of people have said – he is a decent guy.
 


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