[Politics] "We're cracking down on dangerous cycling".

[Herr Tubthumper]

They don’t pay any road tax.

 

[Husty]

Anything that heightens the chances of Stat Brother being imprisoned is alright in my book.

 

[studio150]

Definitely gets my vote.


The 5 people killed daily by dangerous cars, can go f**k themselves.

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Or 1 death per 169,538,633 vehicle mile

Note vehicle not car

 

[BensGrandad]

I'm not above giving a cyclist (as a pedestrian) a bit of verbal who goes through a red light.

But good luck with that. One thing that won't happen is enforcement of any driving laws, especially given the reduced resources of the authorities.




Is it simple? Or is it daft? What you appear to be saying is 'let cars have priority on 'A' roads, and cyclists have priority on 'B' roads.

'A' road are often, by their very nature, bigger, wider and more 'important' access roads, and would therefore be better as hosting a cycle lane.

'B' road are generally smaller, usually single lane, with no facilities to host cycle lanes. And any car on a 'B' road would not be able to use the road to its fullest purpose.

That was a tongue in the cheek post knowing the OP is always going on about cyclists and also I wouldn't build cycle lanes especially on a promenade as the mere word promenade is to walk.

 

[The Large One]

That was a tongue in the cheek post knowing the OP is always going on about cyclists and also I wouldn't build cycle lanes especially on a promenade as the mere word promenade is to walk.

The cycle lane on Brighton seafront is (between the Palace Pier and West Pier) is a bit daft. It works mostly, but it can be improved.

If the money was there, the council could re-build the road - widening it to accommodate a cycle lane, narrowing the pavement slightly, but still keeping it separate from the road. I'd say there is room to do that.

 

[Birdie Boy]

The cycle lane on Brighton seafront is (between the Palace Pier and West Pier) is a bit daft. It works mostly, but it can be improved.

If the money was there, the council could re-build the road - widening it to accommodate a cycle lane, narrowing the pavement slightly, but still keeping it separate from the road. I'd say there is room to do that.

That part of the cycle lane is too small but it's not rocket science , don't cycle through there at 20+mph.
I'm a cyclist and driver.

 

[BensGrandad]

That may work in Brighton but it doesnt on Worthing seafront and was always one of my mothers pet hates and where I got the idea that promenade means to walk from.

 

[The Large One]

That part of the cycle lane is too small but it's not rocket science , don't cycle through there at 20+mph.
I'm a cyclist and driver.

I don't think you can cycle at 20mph+ on Brighton seafront, unless you are asking for a cuffing from a passer-by.

 

[The Large One]

That may work in Brighton but it doesnt on Worthing seafront and was always one of my mothers pet hates and where I got the idea that promenade means to walk from.

The seafront cycle lane in Worthing is separate from the road.

It works very well.

 

[perseus]

That was a tongue in the cheek post knowing the OP is always going on about cyclists and also I wouldn't build cycle lanes especially on a promenade as the mere word promenade is to walk.

Its an esplanade.

 

[BensGrandad]

The seafront cycle lane in Worthing is separate from the road.

It works very well.

Its an esplanade.

part of the Promenade.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Definitely gets my vote.

After all the 2 people a year killed by dangerous cycling need a voice.
The 5 people killed daily by dangerous cars, can go f**k themselves.

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Ever driven in London and seen cyclists taking their lives in their hands? Just about the lot of them are complete idiots.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I
'A' road are often, by their very nature, bigger, wider and more 'important' access roads, and would therefore be better as hosting a cycle lane.

I put to you the A24 at Warnham, the A272, A27 past Lewes, anywhere really, and probably over the country hundreds more examples where A roads are no wider than B roads.

 

[BensGrandad]

I put to you the A24 at Warnham, the A272, A27 past Lewes, anywhere really, and probably over the country hundreds more examples where A roads are no wider than B roads.

I would think the exceptions are the A27, A259 and A23 in and around Brighton.most others in the Brighton area do not qualify as being wider.

 

[The Large One]

I put to you the A24 at Warnham, the A272, A27 past Lewes, anywhere really, and probably over the country hundreds more examples where A roads are no wider than B roads.

Fair enough, but not quite the point being made.

Whether 'A' or 'B' roads, BG is suggesting that cyclists should only be allowed on narrow(er) roads.

 

[perseus]

The cycle lane on Brighton seafront is (between the Palace Pier and West Pier) is a bit daft. It works mostly, but it can be improved.

If the money was there, the council could re-build the road - widening it to accommodate a cycle lane, narrowing the pavement slightly, but still keeping it separate from the road. I'd say there is room to do that.

It doesn't work. Having a narrow cyclepath where the pedestrians walk at a tangent to cyclists never does. A big wide esplanade works better as there is more room to avoid pedestrians.

 

[perseus]

part of the Promenade.

It's not an official name?

 

[vegster]

The seafront cycle lane in Worthing is separate from the road.

It works very well.

Take a walk to Splash Point Worthing where the cycle lane bends and narrows about 8am in the morning and watch the peloton thundering by in both directions with no quarter given.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Fair enough, but not quite the point being made.

Whether 'A' or 'B' roads, BG is suggesting that cyclists should only be allowed on narrow(er) roads.

Impossible to impose in London where all A roads narrow up.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

They don’t pay any road tax.

Nor require a license. The government are missing an opportunity for both more bureaucracy and income, and more control of these two wheelers.
In terms of licensing and taxation, I have often wondered why they don’t have more control of access to the internet both as a source of income and some ability to control some of the idiots that use it.