[Food] Well Done Toby Carvery

[Cowfold Seagull]

Good God, 100 posts on a thread entitled Well Done Toby Carvery. Well done l agree, but as much a shrewd marketing exercise as much as a thank you to our servicemen, (and women of course).

 

[Normal Rob]

Who wants to be slaving in a hot kitchen on a day like this anyway and all that washing up? p

Me. I love cooking a roast and all the drinking that goes hand in hand with doing so

 

[goldstone]

How would you propose they tackle this? How do you propose to sort your true heros, from the rest?

Maybe announce it as Free Meals for Forces HEROS, but have an X-factor style panel of judges by the entrance? Each serviceman can walk in and recount their most notable acts of service, then the judges decide if they are heroic enough to qualify for the free lunch? The bravest of all, with the best stories, could maybe get an extra Yorkshire pudding or a banana split?


They've ALL signed up, knowing the likelihood / possibility of having to put their lives on the line to defend the rest of us. Signing up, alone, is quite enough for me.

It's not difficult. They could very easily have made the offer without using the word "heroes". If every member of the armed forces is a hero, then how do you distinguish between the person with a desk job and the one who has put his life on the line on a battlefield? Is the latter a double-hero? Save the term "hero" for people who have genuinely done something heroic. Signing up for a career in the armed forces is not in itself a heroic act.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Me. I love cooking a roast and all the drinking that goes hand in hand with doing so

Absolutely this. I can cook a far better roast myself than those served in a Toby. For a drink budget of a tenner I can get a nice bottle of red to drink during cooking and with the meal and I can listen to 6 Music instead of someone yelling "Tyler, get off the fackin table".

It's not difficult. They could very easily have made the offer without using the word "heroes". If every member of the armed forces is a hero, then how do you distinguish between the person with a desk job and the one who has put his life on the line on a battlefield? Is the latter a double-hero? Save the term "hero" for people who have genuinely done something heroic. Signing up for a career in the armed forces is not in itself a heroic act.

What about someone who's been moved to a desk job because of an injury sustained in battle? Or injury sustained in training?

 

[Hampden Park]

Regulator/Red cap/snowdrop alert

 

[Thunder Bolt]

!


Rudyard Kipling

1890

Rudyard Kipling, who lost his son in 1915 in WW1, and wrote this poem.

My Boy Jack (1916)

Have you news of my boy Jack?'
Not this tide.
'When d'you think that he'll come back?'
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Has any one else had word of him?'
Not this tide.
For what is sunk will hardly swim,
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?'
None this tide,
Nor any tide,
Except he did not shame his kind -
Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.

Then hold your head up all the more,
This tide,
And every tide;
Because he was the son you bore,
And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Rudyard Kipling, who lost his son in 1915 in WW1, and wrote this poem.

My Boy Jack (1916)

Have you news of my boy Jack?'
Not this tide.
'When d'you think that he'll come back?'
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Has any one else had word of him?'
Not this tide.
For what is sunk will hardly swim,
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?'
None this tide,
Nor any tide,
Except he did not shame his kind -
Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.

Then hold your head up all the more,
This tide,
And every tide;
Because he was the son you bore,
And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!

Moving words indeed.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Rudyard Kipling, who lost his son in 1915 in WW1, and wrote this poem.

My Boy Jack (1916)

Have you news of my boy Jack?'
Not this tide.
'When d'you think that he'll come back?'
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Has any one else had word of him?'
Not this tide.
For what is sunk will hardly swim,
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

'Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?'
None this tide,
Nor any tide,
Except he did not shame his kind -
Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.

Then hold your head up all the more,
This tide,
And every tide;
Because he was the son you bore,
And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!

He rhymed tide with tide.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He rhymed tide with tide.

I'm sure that was the least of his worries. Jack's body was never found.

 

[alfredmizen]

He rhymed tide with tide.

 

[The Clamp]

marketing ploy but good on them.

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

how would you have liked them to word it?

i do not see myself as a hero, i signed up, did 19 years, survived the falklands war. i did not join up to go to war, i joined up to see the world. the war was an 'added' bonus. training got me through it. met hundreds of mates, lost quite a few too. hero? nah...Jolly Jack? absofickinglutely

p.s. could do with an anchor face icon thingy

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Enough for you Skimmer

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Happy Armed Forces day to matelots, royals, pongos, and crabfats on here.

I won't be going to a Toby carvery today, as I'm having a free meal at a Golden wedding anniversary.

Have a great day whatever you're doing.

 

[Hampden Park]

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Enough for you Skimmer

thank you bubble head

 

[luppers]

I salute every single member of out armed forces. You all have had the guts to do something that I could not do , I think I would be too much of a coward