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bhamex1901

New member
Dec 20, 2010
679
Don't get why people are backing Rangers at 7's on :shrug:. Wouldn't touch anything at that price let alone Rangers!

I've done
QOS
Stenhousemuir
Chelsea
Tottenham
Saafend
Arsenal

£10 returns £165.02

Southend cost me £28 from a £1 stake. Last 5 accies only 1 team has let me down. Oh well!
 




ArfurW8

Active member
May 22, 2009
725
Fort Neef
All from Bet365:

Accu 1:

Huddersfield @ 12/5
Blackburn @ 11/10
Blackpool @ 8/13
Crystal Palace @ 5/4
Brighton @ 6/4
Leeds @ 4/5
Leicester @ 4/9

4 out of 7 to win, 5 quid returns max 173.00

Accu 2:

Huddersfield @ 12/5
Blackburn @ 11/10
Blackpool @ 8/13
Crystal Palace @ 5/4
Cardiff @ 11/8
Leeds @ 4/5
Hull @ 15/8

4 out of 7 to win, 5 quid returns max 175.00


I don't understand your staking plan for that bet,surely any 4 from 7 is 35 bets.
 


Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
I don't understand your staking plan for that bet,surely any 4 from 7 is 35 bets.

It is - His total stake is £5 across 35 bets. Smaller wins but more likely. Bummer if all 7 come in though!

I normally get let down by 1 or 2 teams (don't we all!) so i might try this and add a straight accy too
 


Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,052
Hangleton
I don't understand your staking plan for that bet,surely any 4 from 7 is 35 bets.

I don't understand it either, or rather I can't understand how the stake is so small for the returns gained.
 


Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
I don't understand it either, or rather I can't understand how the stake is so small for the returns gained.



The returns are small in comparison to placing a single £5 stake on a 7 match accy. you still have to get 4 out of the 7 and if you pick events with low odds (under evens) you won't win much at all.
 




Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,052
Hangleton

Presumably, it was the second of these accies, with five winners, that saved the day. Would the first accy, with 4 winners, not have made a small loss? Not being nosey, just trying to understand the bets.
 


Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,052
Hangleton
The returns are small in comparison to placing a single £5 stake on a 7 match accy. you still have to get 4 out of the 7 and if you pick events with low odds (under evens) you won't win much at all.

Thanks. I think I have now grasped the principles of these bets. Am I right in thinking that with a 7 game accy you really need to have 5 winners to win anything of significance?
 


Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
Thanks. I think I have now grasped the principles of these bets. Am I right in thinking that with a 7 game accy you really need to have 5 winners to win anything of significance?

It depends on the odds!

In a straight 7 event accy you need all 7 to come in - It depends on the odds of all the events that you bet on (7 wins x bugger all is still bugger all!)

If say you did a 5 or even 6 out of 7 as SP does and 5 or 6 came in it still depends on the odds of the events that came in.
 




Paxton Dazo

Up The Spurs.
Mar 11, 2007
9,719
Southend cost me £28 from a £1 stake. Last 5 accies only 1 team has let me down. Oh well!

If Tottenham win today, Southend would have cost me for £165.02.

Ah well.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
It is - His total stake is £5 across 35 bets. Smaller wins but more likely. Bummer if all 7 come in though!

All 7 coming in would give me the return I specified in my OP. 170 or so? However if I went for 7x fold over 7 teams and they all came in I'd probably be looking at around 1000-1700 rather than 170.

Presumably, it was the second of these accies, with five winners, that saved the day. Would the first accy, with 4 winners, not have made a small loss? Not being nosey, just trying to understand the bets.

Nearly correct, the first accy won me 7.77 from a 5 pound bet and the second (with Cardiff's late win) brought me up to 45 pounds. So after initially betting 10 pounds, I walk out with 45 = 35 profit. Again, it's obviously not a great deal of cash, I prefer lower risk and lower return!
 


ArfurW8

Active member
May 22, 2009
725
Fort Neef
All 7 coming in would give me the return I specified in my OP. 170 or so? However if I went for 7x fold over 7 teams and they all came in I'd probably be looking at around 1000-1700 rather than 170.



Nearly correct, the first accy won me 7.77 from a 5 pound bet and the second (with Cardiff's late win) brought me up to 45 pounds. So after initially betting 10 pounds, I walk out with 45 = 35 profit. Again, it's obviously not a great deal of cash, I prefer lower risk and lower return!


I don't want to appear thick,but I still don't understand your staking plan.Any chance you could explain it with figures.
I like the sound of it, as like you I prefer the lower risk steady return of football betting.
 




StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
I don't want to appear thick,but I still don't understand your staking plan.Any chance you could explain it with figures.
I like the sound of it, as like you I prefer the lower risk steady return of football betting.

No worries, it's really not complicated.
When you 'open all multiples' on a site, you have the following options (based on picking 7 teams):

4 Fold: (4 teams out of the 7 have to win) - 35 individual bets are made = High chance of winning but low return
5 Fold: (5 teams out of the 7 have to win) - 21 individual bets are made = Fair chance of winning with fairly good return
6 Fold: (6 teams out of the 7 have to win) - 7 individual bets are made = Low chance of winning with high return
7 Fold: (7 teams out of the 7 have to win) - 1 individual bets are made = Very low chance of winning with very high return.

Obviously the return completely depends on the odds. I very rarely add certain favourites to my accy's as they add virtually no value to it.
The best way to get a good return is to pick 7 teams to win, 5 fair favourites and 2 clear underdogs.

Like I mentioned before, I post my bets on here each week, it would be good to see what everyone else is doing and help each other out etc.
 


ArfurW8

Active member
May 22, 2009
725
Fort Neef
Thanks for that,I have had a reasonable season so far but think I can be a bit guilty of backing too many short priced ones.
I might try backing 4 teams at no shorter than 4/5 and 3 teams at more generous odds.
May try it on over and under 2.5 goals as well.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
5 out of 7 to win tonight:

Leyton Orient
Full Time Result
8/13 £ £0.00
Hartlepool
Full Time Result
23/20 £ £0.00
Rochdale
Full Time Result
5/4 £ £0.00
Cheltenham
Full Time Result
6/5 £ £0.00
Portsmouth
Full Time Result
4/7 £ £0.00
Coventry
Full Time Result
7/5 £ £0.00
Plymouth
Full Time Result
15/8 £ £0.00

5 Fold Accumulator(s) 21x £0.24 (£5.04) Maximum Return = £218.06

6 Fold Accumulator(s) 7x £0.72 (£5.04) Maximum Return = £454.18
 




Vegas Seagull

New member
Jul 10, 2009
7,782
All 7 coming in would give me the return I specified in my OP. 170 or so? However if I went for 7x fold over 7 teams and they all came in I'd probably be looking at around 1000-1700 rather than 170.



Nearly correct, the first accy won me 7.77 from a 5 pound bet and the second (with Cardiff's late win) brought me up to 45 pounds. So after initially betting 10 pounds, I walk out with 45 = 35 profit. Again, it's obviously not a great deal of cash, I prefer lower risk and lower return!

Given that you are staking 5 pounds that gives you 35 x 15p fourfolds. The first bet has one winning line which pays £3 a loss of £2, NOT a £7.77 return, why are you confusing people with false info?
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
Given that you are staking 5 pounds that gives you 35 x 15p fourfolds. The first bet has one winning line which pays £3 a loss of £2, NOT a £7.77 return, why are you confusing people with false info?

Just repeating what my bet slip shows online buddy. I have no idea of the exact maths and variants behind it. I just place my bets and reveal my winnings on here.
£7.77 isn't really anything to boast about is it.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
$$$ Mid-Week Bets $$$

Barnsley @ 5/4
Bristol City @ 6/4
Cardiff @ 8/13
Leeds @ 1/1
Leicester @ 8/11 (Sorry Guys)
Middlesbrough @ 6/4
Huddersfield @ 11/8
Wolverhampton @ 13/10
Blackpool @ 6/5

£5 on 7 out of 9 to win. Maximum return = £977
 


Bean

Registered User
Feb 13, 2010
3,557
Hove
Man Utd
Chelsea
Leicester
Cardiff
Sheff U
Gillingham all to win

£5 on with £200 returns
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
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SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
Arsenal bt qpr
Blackpool by brighton :(
Cardiff bt burnley
Leicester bt palace
Wolves bt charlton
Tranmere bt charlton

£7 to win 185

Fulham bt reading
Forest bt Barnsley
Bburn bt Watford
Cardiff bt burnley
Brentford bt Hartlepool
Crawley bt Oldham

£5 to win £245

And £3 Wigan Ipswich and Peterborough

To win £105

Had 3 winnin accumulators so far this season £700 up
 


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