[Football] Wagner gone... Jan Siewert appointed

[Weststander]

What do you mean 'reaped what he sowed'? Extraordinary and unbelievable success. Imagine Rotherham getting promoted to the PL then staying up. Also, he's engaging, enthusiastic....a breath of fresh air. What's he done to upset you?

A smallish club (albeit with a TB-like owner), last in the top flight in 1972 and near the bottom of the Championship, until Wagner gave them two seasons in the PL. Definitely a large positive in his CV.

Plus he wound up sore loser Garry Monk.

 

[Surf's Up]

5live absolutely certain that he wasn’t sacked. He went to Hoyle to say he wanted to leave at the end of this season, wanting a break from football. Then it was negotiated to now. A rare genuine “by mutual consent”.

They’re as good as down with their fixtures and squad, so they’re looking at a long term appointment to get them back up.

Pardew won’t get a look in ... he’s shit.

.....but one can always hope

 

[BensGrandad]

What do you mean 'reaped what he sowed'? Extraordinary and unbelievable success. Imagine Rotherham getting promoted to the PL then staying up. Also, he's engaging, enthusiastic....a breath of fresh air. What's he done to upset you?

Typical German with a permanent chip on his shoulder as everything was always everybody else fault usually a poor ref and bad decisions never his tactics or team selection.

 

[Weststander]

Typical German with a permanent chip on his shoulder as everything was always everybody else fault usually a poor ref and bad decisions never his tactics or team selection.

Nothing to do with football, but I like Germans. They don’t have much to have permanent chip about.

You’ve just described Tyke Wnkr Warnock and Fergie.

 

[Goldstone1976]

I haven’t been watching closely, but his departure must be close to pushing our Chris up a place in the longest manager table?

 

[NooBHA]

He is probably being lined up by Fulham to replace Ranieri

 

[BensGrandad]

He is probably being lined up by Fulham to replace Ranieri

Thus managing 2 teams to get relegated in the same season from the same division.

 

[Hamilton]

Madness.

Should have been kept on regardless of relegation. That club is not thinking long term.


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[Weststander]

Madness.

Should have been kept on regardless of relegation. That club is not thinking long term.


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Wagner asked to leave at the end of the season, then they agreed for it to be now.

 

[Triggaaar]

Once they lost Mooy thru injury they were doomed.

They were doomed long before that.

 

[Triggaaar]

Typical German with a permanent chip on his shoulder

Doesn't sound like any Germans I've known.

 

[Weststander]

They were doomed long before that.

Mounie and Depoitre not being up to it, is significant. (A touch of the Benteke/Sorloth/Wickham/J,Ayew’s).

 

[Justice]

Sold in the summer for 10 million. Hardly a loss.

My point was more why sign him in the first place.

 

[Stat Brother]

Blimey #NeverWrong at it again, whodda thunk it.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Bad timing as he's just missed out being able to apply for the Stoke and Forest jobs.

 

[Sorrel]

I didn't realise he wanted to leave at the end of the season. I would guess he wanted some time off, then a new challenge. Maybe without the stigma of relegation while he was manager (if someone else does manage to keep them up, then he does well out of it - if someone else doesn't, then at least he wasn't in charge then).

 

[Weststander]

I didn't realise he wanted to leave at the end of the season. I would guess he wanted some time off, then a new challenge. Maybe without the stigma of relegation while he was manager (if someone else does manage to keep them up, then he does well out of it - if someone else doesn't, then at least he wasn't in charge then).

Incredibly well paid but what a stressful job, with the only holiday a couple of weeks each summer, before squad building then preseason. The players that care talk about their weekends being miserable after a defeat, that must be magnified for managers who also take the flak.

 

[BensGrandad]

Blimey #NeverWrong at it again, whodda thunk it.

unlike you I have a mind of my own and an opinion.

 

[Stat Brother]

Nothing to do with football, but I like Germans. They don’t have much to have permanent chip about.

You’ve just described pensioners from Haywards Heath.

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[Saunders]

This is a surprise - I guess the manger felt there was nothing else he could try. I didn't think they would sack him; I thought they were hoping for a Dyche-like return from the Championship.

I wonder who they will get. Survival will be pretty impressive so maybe they will go for a Championship manager. But if they lose lots of matches that manager won't be looking that great so it's not easy a position to fill.

I thought they would try a Burnley and go for a return with him. Its going to be hard to find someone better than him to get them back up and lets face it they are going down no matter what.