[Politics] Voting general election

[happypig]

Lib Dem as Labour are a poor third here. Hoping there's an electoral pact between Labour, LD & Green whereby they stand down candidates in favour of whoever has the best chance of beating the Tory.
Then hopefully a coalition government which introduces Proportional Representation so every vote actually counts.
Looking at the 2019 election, the Conservatives share of the vote at 43.6% should have seen them the biggest party (by 74 seats) but short of a majority.
In contrast, Greens (2.7%) should have had 18 seats not 1 and the Brexit Party (2%) should have had 13 MPs, they got none.
By far the biggest mis-representation, however, is the SNP who had 3.9% of the vote but got nearly double the number of seats they should have (48 v 25).

First past the post only suits the Labour and Conservative parties, it betrays the electorate.

 

[BLOCK F]

It depends.
As a Tory voter, I couldn’t vote for them if Johnson is still PM come the General Election. Should there be a new leader in place who has a good clear out of the shitey ministers in place and speaks sense, then I would consider voting for them.
If, unfortunately, Johnson is still in situ, I shall probably not vote.
It is fair to say that like all parties who have been in power for a substantial period of time, the Tories probably need a period in opposition to regather themselves and let promising fresh talent come through. If that happens, then I hope that any Labour Government/Coalition arrangement is a middle of the road Blairite type and that lunatic elements are not allowed to wield any influence over sensible left of centre policies.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I'll be voting Lib dem because they are the challengers in my constituency with labour having no chance and would move my MP closer to my views. If we had ranked voting I think it would be labour then green then lib dem

 

[Is it PotG?]

It depends.
As a Tory voter, I couldn’t vote for them if Johnson is still PM come the General Election. Should there be a new leader in place who has a good clear out of the shitey ministers in place and speaks sense, then I would consider voting for them.
If, unfortunately, Johnson is still in situ, I shall probably not vote.

I shan't vote.

BoJo needs to go really, and I live in a 18k majority. Nowt's gonna change here for many moons.

 

[MJsGhost]

Lib Dem as Labour are a poor third here. Hoping there's an electoral pact between Labour, LD & Green whereby they stand down candidates in favour of whoever has the best chance of beating the Tory.
Then hopefully a coalition government which introduces Proportional Representation so every vote actually counts.

First past the post only suits the Labour and Conservative parties, it betrays the electorate.

^This^

It's the same here in the Lewes constituency. I cannot wait to see the back of Maria Caulfield.

I'd also like to see Johnson at the helm to suffer a landslide defeat for the ages.

If he's forced out, he'll always believe he was hard done by - he needs the fatal blow delivered in no uncertain terms by the electorate as feedback for his trashing of grown-up, sensible politics and the rule of law. That would be a suitable message for the party that enabled him too.

 

[MJsGhost]

I shan't vote.

BoJo needs to go really, and I live in a 18k majority. Nowt's gonna change here for many morons.

Childishly corrected for you

(sorry, couldn't resist the open goal )

 

[spence]

It depends.
As a Tory voter, I couldn’t vote for them if Johnson is still PM come the General Election. Should there be a new leader in place who has a good clear out of the shitey ministers in place and speaks sense, then I would consider voting for them.
If, unfortunately, Johnson is still in situ, I shall probably not vote.

Exactly my thoughts. I won't vote if he is in charge. Most of the current cabinet I wouldn't vote for either if they become PM. Johnson will go down as one of the worse pms ever with an 80 seat majority. He has ruined it spectacularly

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Worthing politically is pretty fluid at the moment. The recent local election results show that Labour have made big steps towards a potential parliamentary victory here. Lid Dems are also strong in some wards too.

Come the GE my natural inclination would be to vote Lib Dem, the party that most closely represents my views; but I will reserve judgement on which party I will actually vote for until I see how things are shaping up. I will vote for the party most likely to unseat the incumbent Tory. Peter Bottomley is a traditional Tory, not a Brexit loon like most of the current crop, but in my view a Tory defeat is necessary to cleanse parliament of their policies, lies, corruption and hate, and if a Labour MP is Worthing is part of that, I'm willing to accept that*

* AS long as they undo the worst Tory policies and support PR.

 

[MattBackHome]

Future Foreign Secretary... Peter Kyle

 

[Is it PotG?]

Childishly corrected for you

(sorry, couldn't resist the open goal )

I thought Corbyn's gang learned last time that slating voters of another rosette is a map to failure.

Carry on.

 

[MJsGhost]

I thought Corbyn's gang learned last time that slating voters of another rosette is a map to failure.

Carry on.

Hence the use of 'childishly' and the apology.

It really was just like that kid's plastic ball blowing across the goalmouth at the rec... it's not big, it's not clever, but...




P.s. I think you'll find it's written "¡cOrByN!"

 

[schmunk]

Lib Dem as the only realistic(!) team to unseat the Tory, but that’s hugely unlikely

Same here in Mid Sussex - it would need to be a massive swing, but we have to try.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

I’ll be voting Labour as I have done all my life however I’m “politically homeless” as they say on Twitter as Starmer doesn’t really represent me as I’m one of them Morning Star readers that is perceived nowadays as a bit of a fruit cake

 

[jessiejames]

Lib Dem as Labour are a poor third here. Hoping there's an electoral pact between Labour, LD & Green whereby they stand down candidates in favour of whoever has the best chance of beating the Tory.
Then hopefully a coalition government which introduces Proportional Representation so every vote actually counts.
Looking at the 2019 election, the Conservatives share of the vote at 43.6% should have seen them the biggest party (by 74 seats) but short of a majority.
In contrast, Greens (2.7%) should have had 18 seats not 1 and the Brexit Party (2%) should have had 13 MPs, they got none.
By far the biggest mis-representation, however, is the SNP who had 3.9% of the vote but got nearly double the number of seats they should have (48 v 25).

First past the post only suits the Labour and Conservative parties, it betrays the electorate.

You get one cance to vote for one person, the person who gets most votes wins. Thats fair to me.

 

[happypig]

You get one cance to vote for one person, the person who gets most votes wins. Thats fair to me.

If 20000 vote for person A, 20000 vote for person B and 20001 vote for person C, then persons A & B's supporters' views become unrepresented and you end up with someone who has only gained a third (plus one) of the votes cast. That seems blatantly unfair.

 

[happypig]

I’ll be voting Labour as I have done all my life however I’m “politically homeless” as they say on Twitter as Starmer doesn’t really represent me as I’m one of them Morning Star readers that is perceived nowadays as a bit of a fruit cake

You're not alone. I'd describe myself as "very left-wing pragmatist"

 

[Wardy's twin]

I will vote anything other than Tory in a general election . Funnily enough though I would probably vote tory for council election in Brighton as the two people for Woodingdean actually seem to represent the area .

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’ll be voting Labour as I have done all my life however I’m “politically homeless” as they say on Twitter as Starmer doesn’t really represent me as I’m one of them Morning Star readers that is perceived nowadays as a bit of a fruit cake

Interesting isn’t it. KS needs to continue as he is with moderate policies in order to attract the votes of me and millions of a similar view. If Labour veers left to appeal to your viewpoint it is likely they will lose.

 

[JBizzle]

^This^

It's the same here in the Lewes constituency. I cannot wait to see the back of Maria Caulfield.

I'd also like to see Johnson at the helm to suffer a landslide defeat for the ages.

If he's forced out, he'll always believe he was hard done by - he needs the fatal blow delivered in no uncertain terms by the electorate as feedback for his trashing of grown-up, sensible politics and the rule of law. That would be a suitable message for the party that enabled him too.

I'm in the same boat. Can't stand Maria Caulfield, but Labour will never win out in Seaford. The Lib Dems however, have had a strong showing in recent elections and have been eating into her majority for some time now. Fingers crossed that it's still the case in 2024 or whenever

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I’ll be voting Labour as I have done all my life

Wow - so you'd vote for a Party - whatever their policies are?