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[Nibble]

Immigration is a problem. UKIP are not the answer by a really long ****ing way.

 

[El Presidente]

Hold on, stop the victim position whenever a reasonable point is made, you brought up his autism and I clearly mentioned it in a wholly reasonable way.

You seem to never come back with anything when a point is made, there remains a general political point if any British youngster makes 400 unsuccessful applications for work whilst allowing 1000000 immigrants to vie for employment within the same workplace, then forcing that youngster onto benefits.

It is you who crassly linked his unemployment to migration, trying to score party political points instead of dealing with the issue.

There are few migrants where he lives so your comments are crass, ill considered and totally without validity or research.

We have a government that have closed down the factories and workplaces aimed at people less a led than others, so that smug twats like Ian Duncan Smith can feel self satisfied.

I don't see UKIP doing anything for the less abled.

 

[BigGully]

Immigration is a problem. UKIP are not the answer by a really long ****ing way.

If you feel immigration is a problem, then none of the main stream parties can/will effect it.

 

[BigGully]

It is you who crassly linked his unemployment to migration, trying to score party political points instead of dealing with the issue.

There are few migrants where he lives so your comments are crass, ill considered and totally without validity or research.

We have a government that have closed down the factories and workplaces aimed at people less a led than others, so that smug twats like Ian Duncan Smith can feel self satisfied.

I don't see UKIP doing anything for the less abled.

Which bit of the 1000000 employed immigrants have not effected the employment environment ?

If the government has closed down factories and workplaces, how can we possibly support continued mass immigration ?

You brought up your Son's employment status and quite indepth it was too, so do not then spuriously deem wholly reasonable responses as crass you tend to have a habit of this.

 

[Nibble]

If you feel immigration is a problem, then none of the main stream parties can/will effect it.

I know. All problems have their faults. Tory party hates poor people and disableds, Labour has a spineless loser in charge and Blair legacy, Lib Dems are pretenders and nobodies, Greens aren't a strong enough party, UKIP is full of mysoginstic, racist, clown faced bumblefecks.

 

[BigGully]

I know. All problems have their faults. Tory party hates poor people and disableds, Labour has a spineless loser in charge and Blair legacy, Lib Dems are pretenders and nobodies, Greens aren't a strong enough party, UKIP is full of mysoginstic, racist, clown faced bumblefecks.

Perhaps

 

[Hastings gull]

If they have no source of income then surely, as a civilised nation, we shouldn't allow them to starve?

As for the Winter Fuel Allowance, I suspect the recipients have paid plenty of money into the system over the years, given that they can afford a second home abroad.

There's a case for means testing for things such as WFA, but the administration costs are likely to exceed the savings.

My son is unemployed and had to prove he's done 30 hours a week of active job seeking online to collect his £53 a week JSA.

He's applied for over 400 jobs, but employers aren't interested in someone on the autistic spectrum. He's now stopped claiming as it's such a futile exercise logging on and being monitored.

I don't call his benefits excessive.

With respect, I think you are being somewhat simplistic. Of course they should not starve, and if they knew that the state was not going to pay, then they would have found jobs! Yes, you are right, in that they would have paid into the system, but does that mean they are entitled to money they do not need? And should the system be encouraging this? I suspect you are right with your assertion about the cost of means-testing, by the way, but surely there could be another way of doing it? Don't forget -you asked me for examples, and I gave them.
Quite why you decide to bring up the case of your own son, I don't know - you could well be right in that he fully deserves financial help. I would not -and have not - claimed otherwise. You simply asked for examples of excessive payments, and I am sure, that, your son's situation excepted, you will have encountered a situation whereby you thought the state should not be funding this.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Man who fiddles benefit system gets annoyed at people who do same.

Just as long as you ARE job hunting ( as I was ) then it's not fiddling the benefit system. The fact is that some of what they ask you to do is utterly pointless. Where have I ever slammed benefit claiments ?

 

[Notters]

http://www.shouldivoteukip.co.uk/

 

[Notters]

Just as long as you ARE job hunting ( as I was ) then it's not fiddling the benefit system. The fact is that some of what they ask you to do is utterly pointless. Where have I ever slammed benefit claiments ?

You're not wrong. I seem to remember them desperately trying to get me to apply for jobs when I'd already been offered one, just in case it fell through. This was when I was on jobseeker's allowance for about a week and a half.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What a very odd question. I have knowledge of the ones that put themselves forward for representation as they go on telly and in public and do odd things.

It's not an odd question when quite clearly YOU stated they have NO credible party MEMBERS ...

Apart from the other endless list of failings UKIP has they have absolutely no credible party members.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You're not wrong. I seem to remember them desperately trying to get me to apply for jobs when I'd already been offered one, just in case it fell through. This was when I was on jobseeker's allowance for about a week and a half.

They also insist that you apply for jobs that you have no skills for and no experience to do and thus have bugger all chance of getting. Try explaining this to them and they threatern to stop your JSA. Most the staff at the job centre I met were jumped up jobsworths without a clue about the real world. The 'careers advisor' was an utter joke.

 

[Diablo]

Apart from the other endless list of failings UKIP has they have absolutely no credible party members.

Credible party members.....by that I assume credible to be anyone with whom you agree politically....

Name me one Party member from any of the main political parties who you believe to be credible.....Milliband,Balls maybe....

 

[Nibble]

It's not an odd question when quite clearly YOU stated they have NO credible party MEMBERS ...

I stand by my statement. UKIP has NO credible party members.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

He's autistic. It has nothing to do with migration, don't try to make cheap political gains out of it.

I paid for his education privately, as you the taxpayer wanted to send him to a special unit in Plymouth

I don't know why you'r even bothering to reply to bigGully, he's being a total arse trying to link immigration with the difficulties of people on the spectrum.

 

[BigGully]

I don't know why you'r even bothering to reply to bigGully, he's being a total arse trying to link immigration with the difficulties of people on the spectrum.

You fella are a disgrace, seems you cannot read, if you want to throw unfounded accusations around you might want to think again.

 

[daveinprague]

How many seats do UKIP supporters believe they will win in May..as part of the 'Earthquake in British politics' ?

Im going for one. Carswill retaining his seat...other than that..not seeing any great seismic shifts.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I stand by my statement. UKIP has NO credible party members.

Then you are a bit of a prat then given you can't possibly know every member.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

How many seats do UKIP supporters believe they will win in May..as part of the 'Earthquake in British politics' ?

Im going for one. Carswill retaining his seat...other than that..not seeing any great seismic shifts.

Probably 4 but a very good day will see 6.

 

[Diablo]

I know. All problems have their faults. Tory party hates poor people and disableds, Labour has a spineless loser in charge and Blair legacy, Lib Dems are pretenders and nobodies, Greens aren't a strong enough party, UKIP is full of mysoginstic, racist, clown faced bumblefecks.

Crikey reading more of your posts..you do seem to have a massive chip on your shoulders....