Vitriolic homophobic Millwall fans

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

It's very easy to taint a club by a section of its supporters. i work with two really nice Millwall fans and the away trip the train in and out of the Den was full of young and old Millwall fans happy to talk football.

I imagine last night the majority of the Millwall 'followers' do not attend home games, I do not know if they have to be on a data base to buy away tickets. However the away travel part brings out the worst in a lot of clubs followers, its the same for us at high profile games I often see faces and people I never see at home games or low profile away games.

I am not saying that a lot of the supporters behaviour last night was acceptable, it was vile. However I am sure a lot of people within and around the club try and move them away from this imagine, when I was a kid Chelsea were in the same bracket and money seems to have changed them for the better.

I am unsure the non sale of tickets and wishing the club to go out of business is fair to a large part of their fan base and community. But they still have a mountain to climb in dealing with a part of their own following.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

It's very easy to taint a club by a section of its supporters. i work with two really nice Millwall fans and the away trip the train in and out of the Den was full of young and old Millwall fans happy to talk football.

I imagine last night the majority of the Millwall 'followers' do not attend home games, I do not know if they have to be on a data base to buy away tickets. However the away travel part brings out the worst in a lot of clubs followers, its the same for us at high profile games I often see faces and people I never see at home games or low profile away games.

I am not saying that a lot of the supporters behaviour last night was acceptable, it was vile. However I am sure a lot of people within and around the club try and move them away from this imagine, when I was a kid Chelsea were in the same bracket and money seems to have changed them for the better.

I am unsure the non sale of tickets and wishing the club to go out of business is fair to a large part of their fan base and community. But they still have a mountain to climb in dealing with a part of their own following.

Amen to that. You can't blame a club for the people who attach themselves to it. The only Millwall fans I know are top blokes who would be as embarassed by the toilet smashing and homophobia as anyone.

Did a little blog on it if anyone is interested...

http://sweatshoptachinardi.blogspot.com/2012/02/clubs-show-intent-to-tackle-homophobia.html

 

[Jameson]

Amen to that. You can't blame a club for the people who attach themselves to it.

Yes you can. These days with membership schemes and sophisticated ticketing and policing there's no excuse. Some time ago Millwall made a big effort to exclude the morons and even going to a home game became difficult unless you were a genuine fan. I would like to think Millwall only sell away tickets to established and registered fans; if this is the case, it doesn't say much for them. If it's not the case, Millwall should do better. If it were our fans behaving like this at away games, there would be hell to pay, banning orders and suchlike. The coppers and stewards stood by and did nothing in the face of the worse and most vile homophobic abuse I've ever experienced; and I'm one of those that used to accept this stuff as banter. No more. And I had a friend and his young son along for their first game and had to listen to all this in the ground and at the station. Not the most encouraging start to your career as an Albion fan.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Amen to that. You can't blame a club for the people who attach themselves to it.

Yes you can. These days with membership schemes and sophisticated ticketing and policing there's no excuse. Some time ago Millwall made a big effort to exclude the morons and even going to a home game became difficult unless you were a genuine fan. I would like to think Millwall only sell away tickets to established and registered fans; if this is the case, it doesn't say much for them. If it's not the case, Millwall should do better. If it were our fans behaving like this at away games, there would be hell to pay, banning orders and suchlike. The coppers and stewards stood by and did nothing in the face of the worse and most vile homophobic abuse I've ever experienced; and I'm one of those that used to accept this stuff as banter. No more. And I had a friend and his young son along for their first game and had to listen to all this in the ground and at the station. Not the most encouraging start to your career as an Albion fan.

I am sure that, were the police to have arrested anyone and they were found guilty of homophobic abuse, Millwall would ban them.

A club cannot proactively ban people on what they might do or are capable of. Millwall does all it can as far as I can see. You cannot blame the club if someone who has never been caught doing anything wrong before suddenly decides to.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Amen to that. You can't blame a club for the people who attach themselves to it. The only Millwall fans I know are top blokes who would be as embarassed by the toilet smashing and homophobia as anyone.

Did a little blog on it if anyone is interested...

http://sweatshoptachinardi.blogspot.com/2012/02/clubs-show-intent-to-tackle-homophobia.html

Yep sums a lot of it up.

At the away game I was working in Southend so got the train in and out of there. On the way back 4 so called fans of Millwall displayed some of the worst behaviour I have ever seen in public, they were drinking straight vodka and threatening all and sundree around them. They seemed to be getting off on being lawless and untouchable, I felt embarrassed I was unable to take action and was even scared to call the Transport Police in their presence. I believe these 4 men attach themselves to Millwall because it fits an imagine and a cultural badge they want to wear. Lets hope over time Millwall can drop these fans and by signing and promoting charters likes these.

It wasn't too long ago, our club refused to hold a day in connection with Pride

'When Pride suggested teaming up with Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club in a campaign against homophobia at football grounds, Albion told us they weren't interested. They said their fans were already being abused at away grounds because of the issue and felt that such a campaign would only make that situation worse.' Supporters often sing 'Does your boyfriend know you're here' and much worse at Brighton fans.

Brighton take pride in gay day at races | Sport | The Observer

So it shows that even if slow change is possible

 

[severnside gull]

Just about sums it up
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seems to be a balance of reasonable fans with a perfectly acceptable bias towards their own club, plus the usual collection of neanderthals who (by definition) will eventually die out (in a football context, many of them via banning orders in all probability).

Millwall do retain more of the "crew" mentality than most but for the most part you need to be right up alongside them to notice and many people will have been unaware of much that has caused comment on here. More concerning is their seeming inability to understand that aggressive homophobia is no longer acceptable, let alone amusing. Banter is one thing but across all of their forums in the build up and post match periods there has been a strong undercurrent of violent homophobic comment full of genuine hatred and bile. Truly saddening that elements of any society should be so disconnected but what do I know? In their argot I guess I am at best a wimp.

Our lowest home fans' attendance of the season - I suspect many with children will have stayed away last night. Still more will do so next season and whilst that may be cause for a "victory" celebration for the thugs, they might want to look at their own attendances - average 11,000 (would be 10K except that they get a big turn-out for the fightnight specials v Palace and Leeds) and declining. Football thrives as a popular sport with appeal to all. When it degenerates to the level of "fight club" it becomes a niche activity with appeal to relatively few. Sadly, in a changing world, it is the thugs and the homophobes who are unable to change that will kill Millwall FC as they risk fighting themselves out of business. Signing a petition means nothing but is an indication that the club at least know they have to kick out the hoolies to survive. They will know that last night was a failure.

 

[CHAPPERS]

I imagine last night the majority of the Millwall 'followers' do not attend home games, I

This is definitely the case. I was in a carriage with one of their stranger fans who looked like he could be a right nasty c*nt if he wanted to. We were stood right in front of the BTP who go everywhere with Millwall and he was asking why he didn't see this particular gent at home games, the guy had no answer to that question and clearly didn't want to talk about that particular point anymore.

 

[JetsetJimbo]

Seems like their fans are pretty split, with the reasonable people being a bit outnumbered by the total scum:
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I hope for their sake that their club never needs something like a Fans United event. The rest of the football world would, I hope, point and laugh. They're the only club I wouldn't feel even a tiny bit of sympathy for if their club went to the wall (yes, I'd even feel a tiny bit sorry for Palace or Pompey fans if their clubs went skint, but Millwall? I'd have a drink to celebrate if they ever disappeared).

 

[salty seagull]

My mate and I were victims of some terrible homophobic abuse last night.I would have legged it but I had my trousers around my ankles at the time.

 

[Decode]

What is with that awful noise they make? Miwwwwwwwwwwwwwuuuuuuuuwwwwhhhh. Its like they want to sound like a pack of animals...maybe i have answered my own question.

Didn't see anything too bad, just a lot posturing. Homophobic stuff isn't nice, but hardly anything new to us.

 

[El Presidente]

It's like watching monkeys in a zoo.

Were they throwing poo and wanking themselves whilst sitting in a tyre?

 

[Seagull Steve]

Beat up the missus, blame black people and muslims for every ill that befalls these neanderthals...that sort of thing. They're an evolutionary anachronism who are fit for nothing but vivisection.

Not forgetting appearing on Jeremy Kyle, signing on (both JSA and police station) and practicing looking hard, in a mirror.

 

[LA1972]

" No one likes us we don't care " sums it up really. Smashing up toilets, bulling catering staff/stewards, picking on teenagers ect. Its clear to see why no one likes them because no one likes a bully. Why they don't care is perhaps more of a mystery. Far too many young wanabe hooligans following Millwall and to see them on the trains and around the pubs is cringeworthy and the "proper" Millwall lads SHOULD care. Millwall has become a laughing stock.

 

[sydney]

Were they throwing poo and wanking themselves whilst sitting in a tyre?

no mate ,the coppers took the tyres and lighters of 'em ..........fire hazard innit geez....

 

[cunning fergus]

quote from that forum

''Bunch of happy clappy bum bandits. Like all these new stadiums, they get filled up with mongs.''

sums it all up really

It does..............if our JCL pant wetters are whining on about what the nasty men supporting other football clubs say to them in or outside the ground then they are going on about something else that they think is important like singing GOSBTS to fast.

Some of em should be chucked in the oven.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

It does..............if our JCL pant wetters are whining on about what the nasty men supporting other football clubs say to them in or outside the ground then they are going on about something else that they think is important like singing GOSBTS to fast.

Some of em should be chucked in the oven.

Is your last quote some reference to the Holocaust, very nasty if it is and not welcome

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

obviousley quite a few on here out of their comfort zone, , a few gobby wall thinking they were the real deal but sadly for them they didn't quite match their asperations........................ JUST WHAT I HEARD .

 

[Don Quixote]

Some people are scum, they are just angry because they will never amount to anything, and are nothing.

 

[countryman]

But you simply cannot polish a dog turd.

You can role it in glitter?

 

[LA1972]

Is your last quote some reference to the Holocaust, very nasty if it is and not welcome

Bit of a strange thing to assume from the word "oven". Why did you think Holocaust? I thought of sausage rolls and gingerbread men