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[Albion] Villa vs Spurs
- Thread starter moggy
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Draw would be the best result because then we just need Liverpool to beat villa then a draw last day and even if we lost the rest would see us 7th.
Spurs not winning means that they have also dropped points which improves our chances for europa league if we can win a couple of games.
Spurs not winning means that they have also dropped points which improves our chances for europa league if we can win a couple of games.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Anything but a Villa win will do.
I’ve said draw but it depends whether we really want to push for the Europa or are happy with the Conference.
Villa win if we really want Europa or draw/Spurs win if we’re happy to settle for Conference.
Villa win if we really want Europa or draw/Spurs win if we’re happy to settle for Conference.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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Villa win increases their confidence they can finish ahead us, and that also means we might need something there on the last day. Spurs win makes the Europa League more difficult for us. Draw means both sides drop 2 points and is probably the best result for us now.
medwayseagull reborn
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- Oct 12, 2022
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Can see Villa beating Spurs, losing to Liverpool and we battle an away draw. That would put them on 58 and us on 56.
Spurs have then got Brentford H and Leeds A - I'd put them down for 4 pts so finish on 61.
So we'd then need 5 points from Arsenal A, Newcastle A, Saints H, ManCity H to finish above both of them.
Spurs winning probably takes 6th out of the equation for us, but makes 7th much easier.
I'm still glass half full so put a draw but not unhappy with a Villa win giving us a great chance for 6th still.
Spurs have then got Brentford H and Leeds A - I'd put them down for 4 pts so finish on 61.
So we'd then need 5 points from Arsenal A, Newcastle A, Saints H, ManCity H to finish above both of them.
Spurs winning probably takes 6th out of the equation for us, but makes 7th much easier.
I'm still glass half full so put a draw but not unhappy with a Villa win giving us a great chance for 6th still.
Kalimantan Gull
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Pretty much here, before Monday I definitely wanted a Villa win, now I'm not so sure. I don't like the idea of going there needing a draw.
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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Draw would be nice but a Spurs win is preferable to a Villa win.
Before Everton (and to a lesser extent Forest) I'd have gone all out for a Villa win - we were hunting down Spurs, as were Villa, and Spurs finishing 8th. and out of Europe where they deserve would have been a joy.
Now we have to be more pragmatic; head now says draw. If Liverpool then beat Villa and we beat Southampton we finish 7th. and in the conference. Same if Spurs win, of course, but restricting them to one point still keeps the dream of 6th. alive, albeit only the faintest of faint hopes.
Now we have to be more pragmatic; head now says draw. If Liverpool then beat Villa and we beat Southampton we finish 7th. and in the conference. Same if Spurs win, of course, but restricting them to one point still keeps the dream of 6th. alive, albeit only the faintest of faint hopes.
Lol I'm the only one to have gone for Villa so far out of 40 votes. You just have to assume that Liverpool will beat Villa. Even if Villa were to beat Spurs and us that still only leaves us needing 5 points to finish above them. I know we have difficult fixtures but we have to back ourselves to get 5 points for 7th. Especially when one of those games is against Villa.
So, say Spurs beat Villa and then they play at home to Brentford and away to Leeds. On paper they win those games (even though I fancy Brentford to get something). Potentially Spurs could be on 66 points, or 64 with a draw. That extra point for a draw means we need to win 3 of our remaining games. I think it's far more likely we win a couple and pick up a couple draws given we have to play Arsenal, Newcastle and City.
What's more likely, Villa to lose/draw against Liverpool and us, or Spurs to lose/draw against Brentford and Leeds? Then throw in that Spurs already have 3 more points. It's literally a no brainer.
Unless of course everyone on here is playing for 7th, and not 6th. I'm playing for 6th.
So, say Spurs beat Villa and then they play at home to Brentford and away to Leeds. On paper they win those games (even though I fancy Brentford to get something). Potentially Spurs could be on 66 points, or 64 with a draw. That extra point for a draw means we need to win 3 of our remaining games. I think it's far more likely we win a couple and pick up a couple draws given we have to play Arsenal, Newcastle and City.
What's more likely, Villa to lose/draw against Liverpool and us, or Spurs to lose/draw against Brentford and Leeds? Then throw in that Spurs already have 3 more points. It's literally a no brainer.
Unless of course everyone on here is playing for 7th, and not 6th. I'm playing for 6th.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Villa win or, secondly a draw.
A Spurs win near enough takes it out of our hands, as they'll surely get another 3 points (probably six) out of Brentford & Leeds - which puts them on 63 or 66 - which may be hard to catch up to. Whereas I can't see Villa beating a resurgent Liverpool - so they'll be on 57 points at the beginning of the final day.
I have no qualms about a last day decider against Villa. That sort of match is is surely what football is all about isn't it? Keep it in our hands.
A Spurs win near enough takes it out of our hands, as they'll surely get another 3 points (probably six) out of Brentford & Leeds - which puts them on 63 or 66 - which may be hard to catch up to. Whereas I can't see Villa beating a resurgent Liverpool - so they'll be on 57 points at the beginning of the final day.
I have no qualms about a last day decider against Villa. That sort of match is is surely what football is all about isn't it? Keep it in our hands.
Official Old Man
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It's simple. Villa lose to Spurs & Liverpool and we beat Saints we are GUARANTEED Europa Conference. We will party all night long knowing we have Man City (H) & Villa (A) but don't need the points.
Villa Spurs draw it's the same. 3 pts from 4 games and we're in Europe as long as we don't lose that GD.
We blew 6th spot on Monday and so 7th has to be the target now.
BUT Spurs may struggle away at Leeds last game and so a Villa Spurs draw opens up the chance for us to need 3 extra points and get 6th place.
Villa win means we will have to go to Villa and get a draw. My nerves couldn't cope with that.
Just thought. Villa draw and we could go to Villa last day with Villa needing to win by 5 goals to beat our GD.
Villa Spurs draw it's the same. 3 pts from 4 games and we're in Europe as long as we don't lose that GD.
We blew 6th spot on Monday and so 7th has to be the target now.
BUT Spurs may struggle away at Leeds last game and so a Villa Spurs draw opens up the chance for us to need 3 extra points and get 6th place.
Villa win means we will have to go to Villa and get a draw. My nerves couldn't cope with that.
Just thought. Villa draw and we could go to Villa last day with Villa needing to win by 5 goals to beat our GD.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Really? Are we incapable of picking up points against Arsenal, Newcastle, City? Are 3 defeats nailed on for these games? Are we certs to get nothing at Villa?
Thunder Bolt
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My head hurts. Que sera sera.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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THIS. 7th would be incredible.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Yes, we could pick up points against the three clubs above us, but we have to be realistic. Those three games give us the chance to match the Villa result at Liverpool.
There is a scenario where we finish on 58 whilst Spurs & Villa have 59.
I'll be happy with 58 points at 4:00 on Sunday 21st May if Villa only have 55
In fact, I'll probably be in tears of joy. In my mind, a day bigger than promotion.