[Albion] Viktor Gyokeres

[The Wookiee]

Still don’t think will cut it in the prem

Had a lot of crap seasons amongst 1 and a bit good ones in championship and a good one in a noddy league

Kevin De Bruyne & Mo Salah ?

Could be said both couldn’t cut it in the prem - went away came back and are arguably two of the best players to ever play in the premier league

 

[Eeyore]

Not really. He needed to go somewhere he could play regularly and develop as a player. It simply wasn't happening for him here. When he was sold he'd scored 3 goals in 30 Championship appearances, there was nothing to suggest we'd let this level of player go. We did well to get a million for him plus the sell on. He's done very well since he left and good luck to the lad.

That doesn't mean we made a mistake letting him go, he needed to move on to become the player he has. There was no evidence he was a player that would reach the level he has at the time we sold him (or would have reached those levels if he'd stayed), and there would still be question marks over can hit the same level in the Premier League if he was to move back to England.

I doubt the club are that worried that we let him go but are probably very glad they took the insurance policy of putting a decent sized sell on clause into the Coventry deal.

Also to add that his goal scoring in his two full Div 2 seasons at Coventry City was on a par with Adam Armstrong who has struggled upstairs. It would be interesting to see how he performs if he did come back to England.

 

[schmunk]

On the UEFA coefficients, Portugal sits between the Belgian and the Dutch leagues.

Estrela have the same ClubELO rating as Portsmouth...

 

[Doc Lynam]

Old skool

 

[AstroSloth]

Hat trick against City tonight, definitely couldn't cut it in the Prem right?

Everyone talking about how poor the Portuguese league is currently look like this

 

[Solid at the back]

How sure are we that we still get some £ from our sell on clause with Coventry on any future sale from Sporting?

I was telling all my colleagues (non Albion fans) that we will still be due some money and all of them said that as soon as the sale to Sporting happened, we received our £ and then any futures sales would be irrelevant. I argued the other way, and tried to find some evidence to back it up, but couldn't.

 

[Mustafa II]

How sure are we that we still get some £ from our sell on clause with Coventry on any future sale from Sporting?

I was telling all my colleagues (non Albion fans) that we will still be due some money and all of them said that as soon as the sale to Sporting happened, we received our £ and then any futures sales would be irrelevant. I argued the other way, and tried to find some evidence to back it up, but couldn't.

It will be a negligible amount, even in the best case scenario.

 

[Springal]

Hat trick against City tonight, definitely couldn't cut it in the Prem right?

Everyone talking about how poor the Portuguese league is currently look like this
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1 in 12 at Swansea
3 in 19 at Coventry

Both on loan - no one would have known at that point and clearly a couple of seasons in the championship helped his development

Can’t win them all

 

[Hometownglory]

The one that got away!

 

[jonny.rainbow]

The one that got away!

Say Watford, Arsenal and Man Utd fans about 2024 Danny Welbeck.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Makes me feel more and more sick by the week that we let him go for bugger all.

Mind you, who's to say he would have ever reached this level if he'd taken a different path and been a bench warmer with us rather than going to Cov.

Good on the lad anyway. If he wasn't already one of the hottest properties in world football, he certainly is after tonight.

 

[Mustafa II]

Say Watford, Arsenal and Man Utd fans about 2024 Danny Welbeck.

Swings and roundabouts.

Not really the same thing bud.

Gyokeres will probably be a big, big signing for a big, big club.

Not our fault though, these things will happen with our model of signing the worlds top talents. Not going to see all of them through., Some will slip through the net.

 

[Springal]

And we’d have sold him by now anyway

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

How sure are we that we still get some £ from our sell on clause with Coventry on any future sale from Sporting?

I was telling all my colleagues (non Albion fans) that we will still be due some money and all of them said that as soon as the sale to Sporting happened, we received our £ and then any futures sales would be irrelevant. I argued the other way, and tried to find some evidence to back it up, but couldn't.

We will get something but it won't be much in the grand scheme of things.

Pretty much every sell on clause applies to any profit being made by the selling club including payments for future sales or fees due if the player wins something etc. So we'd be entitled to a percentage of any future payments Coventry get from the clauses included in the sale of Gyokeres but what we will actually get in depends on what percentage Sporting have to pay to Coventry.

For example say we had a 20% sell on with Coventry and they have the same with Sporting. If Viktor is sold for £50m that represents a profit of about £26m to Sporting. Coventry would get around £5.2m and we'd get 20% of that so just over £1m (with a 20% sell on we'd have also received about £4.5m when Coventry sold him to Sporting)

 

[ClemFandango]

I think Dan Ashworth let him go for £1m or whatever it was. How much is he going to spend buying him for Man U when Amorim arrives? £80mill maybe

 

[Solid at the back]

We will get something but it won't be much in the grand scheme of things.

Pretty much every sell on clause applies to any profit being made by the selling club including payments for future sales or fees due if the player wins something etc. So we'd be entitled to a percentage of any future payments Coventry get from the clauses included in the sale of Gyokeres but what we will actually get in depends on what percentage Sporting have to pay to Coventry.

For example say we had a 20% sell on with Coventry and they have the same with Sporting. If Viktor is sold for £50m that represents a profit of about £26m to Sporting. Coventry would get around £5.2m and we'd get 20% of that so just over £1m (with a 20% sell on we'd have also received about £4.5m when Coventry sold him to Sporting)

Thanks, this is what I was saying to my colleagues but I couldn't find anything to back this up.

 

[jcdenton08]

I think Dan Ashworth let him go for £1m or whatever it was. How much is he going to spend buying him for Man U when Amorim arrives? £80mill maybe

Can’t win them all. Shame, but understandable at the time why we let him go. He wanted to play regularly and he didn’t look brilliant in his limited first team opportunities for us. Very similar to the Peupion situation presently, didn’t look ready when he featured briefly, and we can’t put him in ahead of so many players we have ahead of him currently. Peupion might go on to be a world beater and we get that wrong too if he goes, but there’s only so many players you can accommodate.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Not really the same thing bud.

Gyokeres will probably be a big, big signing for a big, big club.

Not our fault though, these things will happen with our model of signing the world’s top talents. Not going to see all of them through., Some will slip through the net.

Jury’s out whether that big club would or could be a Premier League team though.

 

[FatSuperman]

Estrela have the same ClubELO rating as Portsmouth...

Decent beer tbf

 

[FatSuperman]

Hat trick against City tonight, definitely couldn't cut it in the Prem right?

Everyone talking about how poor the Portuguese league is currently look like this
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