[Football] Victor Osimhen

[Insel affe]

Tyson. Implying Bruno was black on the outside, but white on the inside.

It was Lennox Lewis as well.

 

[dwayne]

Strange one. Don't think they were intentionally abusing their own player. Just terrible humour. But I spose they need to be taught.

 

[Gabbafella]

You know what it implies right ?

I do now, Google helped me out though.

 

[Bakero]

I'm not sure whether the term coconut is used in Italy in the same was as in some other nations (ie. Brown on the outside, white within).

However, cocco, the Italian for coconut is used as term of endearment, akin to darling. The song used is apparently popular amongst kids. This version has millions of YouTube views:



I'd still say using it as a video featuring a black player is misguided at best but maybe, just maybe, not quite as outrageous as it first seems. Still a major fek up by their social media admin.

What do you think @Sepulveda ?

NB. I'm on no way excusing it, just adding a little context. I think the base thinking was probably he has dark skin, coconuts are brown, silly song, might get some likes.

 

[GT49er]

You know what it implies right ?

No, I'd never heard of it - and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

 

[Insel affe]

No, I'd never heard of it - and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

living in multicultural Gloucester i am not surprised by that.

 

[severnside gull]

Unlike Germany, Italy hasn't confronted its past. It's worse than one we're more familiar with.

Hmm. After Braverman’s most recent performance I’m not so sure

 

[GT49er]

living in multicultural Gloucester i am not surprised by that.

I'm not sure why living in a multicutural city would make me less likely to have heard that. Unless of course, 'multicultural Gloucester' is a sarcastic remark implying the exact opposite - which, if the case, would be showing your ignorance I'm afraid. We have a considerable Moslem population, and now a very considerable eastern European quarter. Our junior schools have to find interpreters for many children whose first language isn't English, in may cases with no English at all. One school near me has to do this for 12 different languages in one reception intake. Gloucester is indeed very multicultural.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

The vast majority of the people who use Coconut as an insult are black people.

 

[Bakero]

The vast majority of the people who use Coconut as an insult are black people.

Exactly. I very much doubt that was the use in this video. Still perhaps had racial undertones but not in the sense some are suggesting.

For those not familiar with the words use in the English-speaking world, you may remember Rio Ferdinand getting into hot water for his response to someone calling Ashley Cole a choc ice.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Exactly. I very much doubt that was the use in this video. Still perhaps had racial undertones but not in the sense some are suggesting.

For those not familiar with the words use in the English-speaking world, you may remember Rio Ferdinand getting into hot water for his response to someone calling Ashley Cole a choc ice.

Acceptable usage also changes over time.

I had a great, female boss when I lived and worked in Sydney. Chinese family but born in Oz. Thick Sydney accent and loved rugby and drinking. She often referred to herself as 'a banana'. This was in 2002 and I doubt she does the same now.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Exactly. I very much doubt that was the use in this video. Still perhaps had racial undertones but not in the sense some are suggesting.

For those not familiar with the words use in the English-speaking world, you may remember Rio Ferdinand getting into hot water for his response to someone calling Ashley Cole a choc ice.

Makes no sense for a non-black person to try and use it as an insult, just doesn't work.

It's a class thing between black people. People from the Hoods using it to insult someone who is educated and well spoken.

 

[Pavilionaire]

What an incredible story. If any of this is genuinely from Napoli club sources it opens the doors for hackers to wreak havoc.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Makes no sense for a non-black person to try and use it as an insult, just doesn't work.

It's a class thing between black people. People from the Hoods using it to insult someone who is educated and well spoken.

Some use "choc ice" in the same way.

 

[The Fits]

I'm not sure why living in a multicutural city would make me less likely to have heard that. Unless of course, 'multicultural Gloucester' is a sarcastic remark implying the exact opposite - which, if the case, would be showing your ignorance I'm afraid. We have a considerable Moslem population, and now a very considerable eastern European quarter. Our junior schools have to find interpreters for many children whose first language isn't English, in may cases with no English at all. One school near me has to do this for 12 different languages in one reception intake. Gloucester is indeed very multicultural.

Knowing both cities I'm certain Gloucester is more multi cultural than Brighton.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Makes no sense for a non-black person to try and use it as an insult, just doesn't work.

It's a class thing between black people. People from the Hoods using it to insult someone who is educated and well spoken.

I imagine any black person being publucly described that way would take offence, regardless of who said it and whether it was meant as an insult or not - but maybe not in Italy if it is indeed a term of endearment there.

Nevertheless it appears to be the penalty video they're particularly upset about, and that is just weird why Napoli did that.

 

[1066familyman]

I imagine any black person being publucly described that way would take offence, regardless of who said it and whether it was meant as an insult or not - but maybe not in Italy if it is indeed a term of endearment there.

Nevertheless it appears to be the penalty video they're particularly upset about, and that is just weird why Napoli did that.

Agreed. Weird why Napoli would do that, and weird why the OP would post the 'wrong' video.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Is being called a coconut some sort of racist term in Italy?
Excuse my ignorance but I've never heard of that before if it is.
Bizarre video regardless, especially if it has genuinely come from the club.

I think, back in the day English supporters directed "What's that pineapple on your head" at black players ? If true would imagine the "coconut" abuse refers to the white stripe on top of his head ?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That. And, WHY?

Because they can.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Tyson. Implying Bruno was black on the outside, but white on the inside.

When I lived in Vancouver 40 years ago we had 'bananas'. A derogatory term for second or third generation Chinese who had forsaken their heritage (i.e., pretty much all of them).