Veal - the poll

[rool]

From what I have read the problem is what do the farmers then do with the male calves from dairy stock that is no use?. They get slaughtered instantly or used for veal is the only alternatives from my understanding.

There is a marginally better alternative in rose veal (I think), whereby the calves are at least kept in large barns and mingle with others for it's relatively short life.

I'm not a regular eater but when I have, mostly in Germany and Austria, I have thouroughly enjoyed it.

 

[Silent Bob]

Let's face it, no animals (or next to none) are treated well.

 

[Brovion]

Much of the foxhunting cruelty thing is a myth. There was a programme on a few months back that showed the slaughter of foxes is just as humane as the slaughter of any other animal.

Excuse my editing ...

 

[rool]

Excuse my editing ...

There seems no problem to me using dogs to kill pests, it's been done forever. It's the whole sport and past time thing about it that makes it a bit unsavoury for me.

I suppose the same could be said for fishing however if I did go fishing (never done it yet) I'd only do it to eat the catch.

 

[Buzzer]

Much of the Veal cruelty thing is a myth. There was a programme on a few months back that showed the slaughter of animals for veal is just as humane as the slaughter of any other cattle.

EAT VEAL ITS LOVELY!

and you can't have slaughter without laughter.

THAT IS MY OPINION I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT AND THATS THE END OF THE MATTER

 

[WATFORD zero]

Rool has made a good point - if you don't want veal, don't drink milk

and US - to stop live exports, eat english veal

AND THATS THE END OF THE MATTER

oh and my favourite is when its layered with Parma and mozzarella

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

WHAT'S THE END OF WHAT MATTER!!!

I'm so confused I'm going to eat some veal......

 

[csider]

Foir Gras starter, veal as a main with a Jus........lovely.

The worse treatment for the animal seems to produce the best tasting food. Lived with 2 veggie girlfriends and they both ate bacon but protested about veal. I used to buy it and say it was pork!

 

[rool]

Foir Gras starter, veal as a main with a Jus........lovely.

The worse treatment for the animal seems to produce the best tasting food. Lived with 2 veggie girlfriends and they both ate bacon but protested about veal. I used to buy it and say it was pork!

I get a lot of my info about this kind of stuff from Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall who, whilst a keen meat eater, seems to care a lot about the providence of animals.

Anyway, in one of his books he was writing about fois gras and how the geese can't wait to get their stuffing, literally queueing up for it. Geese are also grass grazers so are more often than not free range.

 

[Gully]

Wouldn't eat veal because of the inhumane way that the animals are kept, however on the other hand I have eaten a Guinea Pig, which many consider a pet.

 

[Yorkie]

I thought veal crates were banned now? I like veal and have eaten it.

 

[Il Duce]

The veal at Leonardos in Hove is absolutely superb. Either fried in breadcrumbs with some spaghetti or done with a little bit of cream and white wine - absolutely lush. Red wine, few sides, get in.

 

[NMH]

I think that, as with all meat, if you know and accept where it comes from, how it is killed, processed and so on, and you still want to eat it, that's fine. But if you don't (and they say that one visit to an abbatoir can turn most people vegetarian), then it's all a bit hypocritical really. (BTW, this also leaves me right up there in the hypocrite steaks [sic].)

There's a big problem with people not understanding where their food comes from, I reckon, something which should be addressed at schools.

Absolutely spot on. There are a lot of people who vaguely know, or admit to having some inkling of where from, and how meat has come to their table. They would rather take the coward's way, and put it out of their mind (rather that than have to feel a pinge of guilt).
Of course it doesn't exactly 'suit' ANY animal that it's killed to fill the stomach of another - but there are some animals that don't even get to live a life... which is the real crime.

Maybe it doesn't seem wrong to eat veal as it's already dead and cooked - but by consuming it there is a demand created for yet another calf to be deprived of motherhood, force-fed in a dark box where it isn't even allowed to stand, so its' muscles are EASY to CUT and offer no strength of resistance.

There are some incredible and realistic horror films made, aren't there?

How about the REAL ones that many humans fund, proper snuff movies of incredible and awful terror and abject misery that are NOT SHOWN because they would stop people from spending their money on them.

DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?
Some of you are party to the horrific torture of innocents, you finance it, you encourage it, and you consume the results.

I'm not 'sorry' to express this, or to be a 'bleeding heart liberal' or whatever some people want to lable me.
Veal is a crime.

Some might be the sorts who say "'United Nations' is a good thing to have, RSPCA should exist, animal cruellty is bad, Amnesty International do good things, Bob Geldof has done great things, thank goodness for Greenpeace" - but all the time you eat veal, you are contributing to the horrible lifelong misery and suffering of a young animal.

Veal is a crime.

 

[Gully]

I always thought that the calves were kept inside, in conditions where they were restricted in their movement, regular exercise of course allows muscle to develop. For all those who do eat veal and marvel at how tender it is, compared to beef or indeed many other meats, there is very good reason for it having that texture.

 

[NMH]

Foir Gras starter, veal as a main with a Jus........lovely.

The worse treatment for the animal seems to produce the best tasting food. Lived with 2 veggie girlfriends and they both ate bacon but protested about veal. I used to buy it and say it was pork!

How were these girlfriends 'veggie' if they ate bacon?

Pork is JUST as tasteful as veal, and can be cooked in wine and rosemary sauce or breaded with button mushrooms or butter cream with saffron and served with chestnuts etcetera etcetera - and the pig didn't have to have a life of solitary miserable confinement.

 

[Gully]

I don't eat pork, through choice, but have seen free range pigs in their fields...have to say that they looked as happy as...well, pigs in shit!

 

[NMH]

Much of the Veal cruelty thing is a myth. There was a programme on a few months back that showed the slaughter of animals for veal is just as humane as the slaughter of any other cattle.

EAT VEAL ITS LOVELY!

Erm....what has the slaughter of it got to do with anything? To be honest, that post shows you haven't thought about the situation at all. I'm not saying you have to, or that you shouldn't eat whatever it's legal to eat - but please do learn more about it that just how it's slaughtered.

Because of the massive task that large farms and abattoirs have in killing their livestock - there are rules for humane killing. The animals are normally slaughtered in a consistent way, mostly with the help of automation (i.e. down a narrow chute, a neck-brace clamps on the animal and a bolt punches out into the head of the creature so that it will die instantly, ...usually)

We trust that farming and marketting is overseen by regulations that are enforced, so that animals are not skinned and gutted while still alive.

The issue about calfs farmed for veal, is that they are treated cruelly whilst alive, and before they are ready for slaughter.