[Albion] VAR today

[Happy Exile]

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

So as I remember it - and I'm currently fuming so my memory might not be 100% - we had five VAR decisions go against us.

1) Handball by Spurs player in Spurs's penalty box. From the one replay I saw it looked like he essentially punched the ball.

2) Mitoma goal disallowed for handball. Looked like top of arm/bottom of shoulder. T-shirt line?

3)Welbeck goal disallowed for handball. Hit Mac allister's elbow as he turns his back on the shot and pulls his arm tight against his body. I don't know why that is handball when the only way it's not a penalty in the box is if they have their arms tight against their bodies(apart form penalty appeal number 1 today...)

4) Mitoma penalty appeal. I mean, what the actual f***. Mitoma has his foot stamped on by Hojberg who was nowhere near the ball or even trying to play it.

5) Dunk penalty appeal. Defender has two fistfuls of Dunk's shirt and is clearly holding/pulling him back.

How do none of those go our way? Mitoma's penalty appeal shouldn't even be under consideration, it's as clear a penalty as you could wish to see.

Thet say that luck evens out over the season. For our VAR luck to even out we'll need the VAR official to run on the pitch pick the ball up and throw it in the man u goal during the semi final. Twice. And then he can do it another couple of times in the final.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Mitoma stonewall pen, what happened there? Stood on his foot ffs.

They’ll say Mitoma was returning to ground, didn’t have control of his body and would likely have fallen/gone down regardless due to his forward momentum and so the contact wasn’t relevant I’d imagine.

 

[AlbionBro]

They’ll say Mitoma was returning to ground, didn’t have control of his body and would likely have fallen/gone down regardless due to his forward momentum and so the contact wasn’t relevant I’d imagine.

It was a clumsy tackle by any defenders standards, they hardly looked at it. I bet Spurs are laughing their Cocks off tonight on how many game changing decision they got away with.

 

[Simster]

They’ll say Mitoma was returning to ground, didn’t have control of his body and would likely have fallen/gone down regardless due to his forward momentum and so the contact wasn’t relevant I’d imagine.

And I'll just say where does it say in the laws of the game that returning to ground counts as mitigation for turning down an otherwise blatant penalty.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

How are you choosing to dismiss the foul on Mitoma?

Why are you making stuff up? I clearly, CLEARLY said that every decision other than the second disallowed goal was unforgiveable.

 

[Weststander]

Telegraph said it only hit his chest.

 

[Bodian]

So as I remember it - and I'm currently fuming so my memory might not be 100% - we had five VAR decisions go against us.

1) Handball by Spurs player in Spurs's penalty box. From the one replay I saw it looked like he essentially punched the ball.

2) Mitoma goal disallowed for handball. Looked like top of arm/bottom of shoulder. T-shirt line?

3)Welbeck goal disallowed for handball. Hit Mac allister's elbow as he turns his back on the shot and pulls his arm tight against his body. I don't know why that is handball when the only way it's not a penalty in the box is if they have their arms tight against their bodies(apart form penalty appeal number 1 today...)

4) Mitoma penalty appeal. I mean, what the actual f***. Mitoma has his foot stamped on by Hojberg who was nowhere near the ball or even trying to play it.

5) Dunk penalty appeal. Defender has two fistfuls of Dunk's shirt and is clearly holding/pulling him back.

How do none of those go our way? Mitoma's penalty appeal shouldn't even be under consideration, it's as clear a penalty as you could wish to see.

Thet say that luck evens out over the season. For our VAR luck to even out we'll need the VAR official to run on the pitch pick the ball up and throw it in the man u goal during the semi final. Twice. And then he can do it another couple of times in the final.

Two-footed lunge in there somewhere as well.

 

[Icy Gull]

Why are you making stuff up? I clearly, CLEARLY said that every decision other than the second disallowed goal was unforgiveable.

Sorry, just saw the one post you made

 

[Icy Gull]

Telegraph said it only hit his chest.

I actually didn’t have a problem with the disallowed goal by Mitoma, would not have been happy for us to concede it

 

[sydney]

Shouldn’t be feeling this angry after a game, these incompetent officials have ruined today’s match. The frustration is that nothing will change.

Feeling sick at this.

i've probably upset a few people tonight but f*** em/it......its WRONG....!!! corrupt/ inept i don't know but wrong , no way we deserved to lose that game and for golden bollox to score the winner just made me want to vommit.

 

[AlbionBro]

So as I remember it - and I'm currently fuming so my memory might not be 100% - we had five VAR decisions go against us.

1) Handball by Spurs player in Spurs's penalty box. From the one replay I saw it looked like he essentially punched the ball.

2) Mitoma goal disallowed for handball. Looked like top of arm/bottom of shoulder. T-shirt line?

3)Welbeck goal disallowed for handball. Hit Mac allister's elbow as he turns his back on the shot and pulls his arm tight against his body. I don't know why that is handball when the only way it's not a penalty in the box is if they have their arms tight against their bodies(apart form penalty appeal number 1 today...)

4) Mitoma penalty appeal. I mean, what the actual f***. Mitoma has his foot stamped on by Hojberg who was nowhere near the ball or even trying to play it.

5) Dunk penalty appeal. Defender has two fistfuls of Dunk's shirt and is clearly holding/pulling him back.

How do none of those go our way? Mitoma's penalty appeal shouldn't even be under consideration, it's as clear a penalty as you could wish to see.

Thet say that luck evens out over the season. For our VAR luck to even out we'll need the VAR official to run on the pitch pick the ball up and throw it in the man u goal during the semi final. Twice. And then he can do it another couple of times in the final.

Spot on, how on earth did they make so many decisions wrong, I doubt match of the day will show anymore than two of them, Lineker seems to have too much control at the BBC. Stick him back in a plaster cast, he was likable then.

 

[A1X]

And all that’ll happen is another letter from PGMOL to the club “sorry we f***ed that up, lolz, no hard feelings though, eh?” and we’ll go back with “yeah sure it’s fine, no biggie, just great to be here, hope you’re all good your end” and nothing more will happen.

 

[sydney]

Never have I ever seen such a corrupt performance, fuming, why were the decision made in seconds? I hope all these officials are fined and banned.

they won't be , it'll all be forgotten about in a few weeks and they'll all be tossing eachother off in a hot tub in Cancun in a couple of months , pathetic ****s they are.

 

[Acker79]

Bit unfair on Sherwood, he's been covering the game on SSN and has been critical of the decisions.

 

[banjo]

 

[Bozza]

To be disallowed, neither “goal” required the referee to go to the screen, so both goals can’t have been allowed initially on the field of play.

VAR can’t say “disallow the goal - it was handball” - they can only do that for offside.

In the ground I immediately saw the lino’s flag go up for Mitoma’s, and it wasn’t for offside.

For the second, again, it can’t have been awarded.

Is that right?

Feels like both goals not being given meaning VAR’s task was to tell the referee if there was any reason for a goal to be considered, not the other way round.

 

[AmexRuislip]

The thing is that we can all get angry about todays decisions.
Nothing will change the result, we should be more aggressive in taking our chances.
No one else outside the club are going to give a shit.
The pundits are basically poor poor Brighton.
All we'll get is another apology from Howard Webb.
So move onto next game against Fat Frank's Chelsea and maybe 3 points.

 

[Acker79]

To be disallowed, neither “goal” required the referee to go to the screen, so both goals can’t have been allowed initially on the field of play.

VAR can’t say “disallow the goal - it was handball” - they can only do that for offside.

In the ground I immediately saw the lino’s flag go up for Mitoma’s, and it wasn’t for offside.

For the second, again, it can’t have been awarded.

Is that right?

Feels like both goals not being given meaning VAR’s task was to tell the referee if there was any reason for a goal to be considered, not the other way round.

It's the goalscorer handball rule, so there is no subjectivity to it, allowing the VAR to make the call without the ref reviewing it. Any contact between the ball and the arm from the goal scorer means the goal can't stand.

For Mitoma, the handball was the onfield decision (not overturned by VAR), but I believe for Mac Allister the onfield decision was a goal (overturned by VAR).

 

[tigertim68]

I believe any touch of the arm/hand that leads to the goal is deemed handball in the new rules but everything else was unforgivable.

Then why did we not have a second penalty last week