[Football] VAR fiasco at Huddersfield

[Neville's Breakfast]

Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.

 

[timbha]

The technology is probably ok, it’s just the interpretation and the ridicule it invites, eg the official being 300 miles away. It works brilliantly for rugby so why not football?

 

[maffew]

Work in progress

 

[B-right-on]

I've spent 20+ years seeing dodgy decisions go Manures way. Do care about this one? No.

 

[KZNSeagull]

The technology is probably ok, it’s just the interpretation and the ridicule it invites, eg the official being 300 miles away. It works brilliantly for rugby so why not football?

Except for the Welsh.

 

[Weststander]

Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.

Glory, glory man united. YOUR reds go marching on and on.

 

[timbha]

Except for the Welsh.

I stand by my comment and am not Welsh !!!

 

[Triggaaar]

Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.

Teething trouble doesn't make it a bad idea.

 

[Gwylan]

It works brilliantly for English rugby so why not football?

Fixed it for you

 

[seagulls4ever]

I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.

 

[lizard]

A tool is only as good as the tools that are using it.









(Though final decision does appear to have been correct.)

 

[Triggaaar]

I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.

Well this is a different take on events.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working

 

[cunning fergus]

Teething trouble doesn't make it a bad idea.

I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.

 

[maffew]

Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working

yet

 

[Deadly Danson]

I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.

Exactly this. I don't know what everyone's moaning about. It's offside, it took a minute or so. Correct decision. End of story.

 

[maffew]

I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.

Very much like tennis, it'll come good I think. Using it at the World Cup though, no way, yet

 

[seagulls4ever]

Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working

Everyone just loves an excuse to jump on the bandwagon.

Take a look. Clearly offside so correct call.

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I expect the actual evidence will be ignored as this is debated over the rest of the weekend, and only the wonky lines will be used by people to claim it was the wrong decision.

 

[Triggaaar]

I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.

I can certainly see the yanks doing it. In fact, I can't see them not doing it. 'This decision is being reviewed by Crunchy Crunch, the crunchiest crunch there is'.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.

Doesn't FIFA have enough money already?

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.

I wish you were wrong, but it's a pretty valid concern. We need to do our best to not accept it (any ads that creep in, rather than var).

 

[Weststander]

Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working

All the Liverpool WBA decisions were correct. Don't listen to Pardew.