[Albion] VAR decision on Estupiñán goal

[Flagship]

I'd like to see VAR scrapped but have a TV monitor by the side of the pitch for the referee to use if he's not sure about something. No line drawing needed. That way there should be no complete howlers which is what VAR was originally intended for.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

I stopped celebrating on the first day they used it v West Ham at home.
Remember it, they were just about to kick off and we had all finished celebrating
And the the ref put that dreaded finger in his ear
It honestly was the main reason I’ve stopped going to a live game

First time VAR was actually used in English football ... I remember the check on Murray's winner!

VAR enjoys smooth debut in FA Cup as lack of drama shows system’s benefits | Amy Lawrence

Glenn Murray’s late goal was reviewed by the VAR in a quick and accurate fashion as the technology enjoyed a low-key, trouble free first match on English soil

www.theguardian.com

 

[BBassic]

Having seen it again When Ali Mac got a yellow I have seen red cards given for less. Have we got VAR to thank or cant they upgrade a yellow

They did have a look and deemed it a yellow card, I believe.

Precedent was set for thos sorts of tackles though when they failed to send off Fabinho for his similar tackle against Ferguson.

So I guess the consistency there helped us

I'm at a loss to describe how I feel about it all. I think Danny Murphy said it best on MOTD - instead of discussing good tactics or excellent play we're sat here talking about poxy VAR. It's relentlessly annoying.

 

[Reddleman]

What irritates me is the smug ex refs saying offside is either on or off so no room for debate. Clearly that’s been disproven now as nonsense. Absolutely disgraceful.

We lost points v Aston Villa for the penalty not given for the foul on Alexis Mac, we probably lost points for the foul on Welbeck not being given v Leicester and now this.

That’s potentially five points we have lost and I can’t think of a single one gained. We would be nearly in champions league spots.

 

[sydney]

farcical , and with todays revelations by Mark Halsey it really makes you wonder , Jarrod Gillett left Australia under a cloud after refereeing an ASL cup final between perth and brisbane whilst being engaged to the brisbane chairmans daughter .......his performance in the match was , to say the least , questionable. he is now frequently used as a var helmet , official or whatever we are supposed to call them .....nimrods...??

 

[fly high]

If human error is a factor here why haven’t they got a team of officials so the decision is double checked? Imagine that happening last day of the season when a win takes you into Europe. Unreal.

Or worse gets you relegated.

 

[dwayne]

How is there not more cameras in grounds ?? This is a multi billion dollar industry and there seems to be about 3 cameras in the whole ground. These incidents always evade a proper camera angle.

Absolutely woeful.

 

[Morvangull]

I think they should stop drawing lines and just use their eyes. If on looking at the still picture it is not immediately clear that the player is offside then the goal should stand. It should make the decision much quicker and the only problem would be the VAR's officials eyesight. This also takes the workings of the game back to a more natural state.

 

[Wardy's twin]

My opinion is VAR should only intervene for offside if the player is deemed over a certain measurement offside, 300mm for example. This stupid couple of mm shit is mad, bad for the game and clearly relies on the human clicking the exact part if the body and freezing exactly as the ball is kicked. With some of the stupidly tight calls that happen every week I can't see how the accuracy can be confirms.

Var is there to correct clear and obvious errors, having to measure millimetres indicates decision was not clearly wrong....

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

With the amount of VAR f*** ups we’ve seen over the last few weeks it almost seems like the Refs want to get rid of it too and that explains the errors. I mean it has to be that doesn’t it, surely no one can be that incompetent week in week out

 

[spence]

I stopped celebrating on the first day they used it v West Ham at home.
Remember it, they were just about to kick off and we had all finished celebrating
And the the ref put that dreaded finger in his ear
It honestly was the main reason I’ve stopped going to a live game

I also remember it well. That was my last season as a season ticket holder. I haven't been back since. I certainly will never be a season ticket holder again. Will go occasionally.

 

[Morvangull]

Var is there to correct clear and obvious errors, having to measure millimetres indicates decision was not clearly wrong....

Yes agreed, unless it is immediately obvious from a look by VAR the goal should stand.

 

[Dirty Dave]

How is there not more cameras in grounds ?? This is a multi billion dollar industry and there seems to be about 3 cameras in the whole ground. These incidents always evade a proper camera angle.

Absolutely woeful.

There's Premier League grounds and then there's Selhurst Park

 

[macbeth]

remember Leeds getting a goal ruled out in VERY similar circumstances at selhurst a couple of seasons ago. do they have optimum viewing angles there? because the one they showed on the telly yesterday seemed a uniquely poor angle to try and make that decision

 

[Icy Gull]

VAR has removed 75% of the joy of scoring or expecting to be given a penalty for me, the fact that it screws us over whenever possible might have something to do with it

 

[raymondo]

This is genuinely unbelievable, I mean this is way beyond ‘typical Brighton’, this is either corruption or gross incompetence. Either way I believe we need more than some meaningless apology. Replay the match.

Replay won't happen...but yes

 

[Dirty Dave]

Next time a decision like that gets referred to VAR, a loud continuous chorus of 30,000 boos during the wait would be good to hear.

Not that it will have any bearing in the VAR studio but will be a timely reminder to onfield officials that we've been let down by admitted errors more than once of late

 

[Sheebo]

Robbed again v them. Still satisfied with a point though - just always think never lose v them?

 

[ukpolska]

Never done anything like this before, but I guess it's worth a go.
There should be an appeal process, as it could cost some teams millions of pounds in extra lost revenue for a 'clear and obvious' mistake. A process to appeal a VAR decision - Sign the Petition! https://chng.it/jZYZkJqFqg

 

[AlexBH]

I just simply do not understand how Premier League VAR officials can be this incompetent to consistently make such basic mistakes. What is the root cause? Corruption? Miscommunication?