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[Football] VAR audio to be released post-match



Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Will this help?

Fans will get the chance to hear VAR discussions in the Premier League for the first time as part of a TV pilot led by Howard Webb, the chief refereeing officer.​
The pilot show from Premier League Productions will air on Monday, May 15, and audio of key decisions from this season will also be shown by Sky Sports in the UK the same day.​
Webb plans to release the officials audio on a more regular basis next season to further help with transparency.​

 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
Will this help?

Maybe for the odd decision.

For some we already know what they said:
'Yeah you can rule out that goal as it hit Mac Allister's arm'.
We already know that VAR must have said it hit his arm, but there's no evidence that it did. Hearing them get it wrong helps no one.

'Yeah I think Dunk went down to easily'. It was a 2 handed shirt pull - what more does a player need to do for it to be a penalty?

I guess they didn't even check the Mitoma penalty decision, but I guess it would have been interesting to hear the shit reason for not giving the handball penalty.
 




Thunder Bolt

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This will only make fans angrier, no? VAR will still make incorrect calls, but now we’ll have the ability to listen to the bumbling morons explaining how they’ve drawn the line on the wrong player.
Yep.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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This will only make fans angrier, no? VAR will still make incorrect calls, but now we’ll have the ability to listen to the bumbling morons explaining how they’ve drawn the line on the wrong player.
Exactly this. It's not for for purpose...
 


strings

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Feb 19, 2006
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Barnsley
Yes - I think it will help. But... why post match? Why not make a live stream available as is done with other sports?

Unless it is available live, I don't see how it will reduce claims of 'cover ups'.
 


Bozza

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Yes - I think it will help. But... why post match? Why not make a live stream available as is done with other sports?

Unless it is available live, I don't see how it will reduce claims of 'cover ups'.
The article in that link states that FIFA do not permit it to be played live.
 












raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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I'd like to hear it. I also think it'll sharpen up the thought processes of the VAR staff. We hear a lot more of the reasoning in rugby and American football... it's good.
Well done Webb for trialling it👍👍.
I'm surprised so many of us complain a lot about VAR (quite understandably) and yet we don't want to see a step towards more transparency...????What gives 🤷‍♂️
 


Greg Bobkin

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Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
Transcript released of Spurs.
Ref "VAR, can you check that goal"
VAR "Hello, who's that? Oh hold on" Whispers in the backround. "Did anyone see that? I've got Strictly on my TV" "no, watching Ant & Dec" "What did the lino say?" "Handball"
VAR to Ref "We uphold the lino, no goal"

Ref "VAR, Dunk said something about his shirt being pulled"
VAR "Heh, this is so funny, I love Ant & Dec" "Wait, sorry ref, we'll check" "What they saying on Sky?" "Sorry, I've not got Sky" "Is his shirt torn" "Not that I can see"
VAR to Ref "No penalty"

Ref "VAR, I missed a foul on Mitoma, can you check it"
VAR "Not you again. Don't you know it's the big finale on Strictly?" "Hold on I'll check" "Anyone got a feed from Spurs"
VAR to Ref "No, no-one saw that as a foul" under breath "because no one here is watching"

VAR "OK guys, there's only 15 minutes to play, let's get down the pub"
 




fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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Why only on Sky, not everyone pays for it? BBC/ITV could publish it on their web pages.
 


Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Brighton
I suspect they will be very careful in choosing which ones to release.....i.e. ones that were inarguably correct, and not controversial.
 




chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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While I’m no fan of Rugby, I do believe we miss a trick by not miking up the ref and hearing the ref discussing decisions with off-field officials, as well as forcing players to cut out the outbursts on the pitch. I’d have us showing replays of contentious events on the big screen, rather than forcing the ref to a tiny display at the side of the pitch too.

Everyone in the stadium remains clueless while those watching on TV have far more information on what’s being looked at.

Transparency builds confidence, and even if I disagree with a decision made, I would be able to see/hear how it was arrived at, which would at least give me the ability to know exactly which bit of the decision making process I was disagreeing with.
 






Seasider78

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Nov 14, 2004
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VAR 1 - Sorry missed that there was a parcel being delivered what happened?

VAR 2 - Footage shows clearly a foul and a penalty

VAR 1 - Have you checked the list of big clubs we are not allowed to give the decision against

VAR 2 - sorry no I didn’t but it’s Spurs and like the European super league plans they have somehow sneaked onto the big clubs list

VAR 1 - ok forget what you have seen just put no penalty
 


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