[Football] VAR at Shalke tonight

[Saunders]

Did the City defender move his arm out of the way or in the way for the first penalty? Contemptible decision.

He had plenty of time to move his arm but waited till the last second to really not move it at the last.

 

[LamieRobertson]

For once in my life I agree with you.

Very good...I think its passed some by

 

[Machiavelli]

Absolute joke. How not to do it. Incomptant ref and VAR monitors. Train the ****ers FFS.

I mean the amount of time taken was absurd. The credibility of the decision was therefore nil. And it was wrong (but that is arguable. Maybe).

I'm sure you'd agree that you meant incompetent. If you did, I disagree with your assessment of the decision, and also find it odd that you think it lacked credibility yet that it is arguable whether it was wrong.
But, apart from that, spot on

 

[Machiavelli]

Decisions were correct I dont see what the problem is. The more practiced they get the quicker the decisions.

That's not good enough. It has to be perfect from the outset and for all time, because that's what it's up against

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I'm sure you'd agree that you meant incompetent. If you did, I disagree with your assessment of the decision, and also find it odd that you think it lacked credibility yet that it is arguable whether it was wrong.
But, apart from that, spot on

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

He had the time, given that they have quick reactions, to tuck it in or slightly behind him. I think he used his arm simultaneously with his upper body, to make sure the shot didn’t hit the back of the net. Then falsely pleaded the opposite.

Yeah....you're right. I'll get my coat.

 

[LamieRobertson]

City down to ten...though it was a soft second yellow personally

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

In some respects this debacle is quite funny. Sheik, rattle and roll over.

 

[neilbard]

Shakalaka Boom Boom are still feckin leading...71'

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

What a goal.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Cracking free kick 2/2

 

[neilbard]

Shakatak have blown it, ahhhhhhh.

 

[Machiavelli]

What a goal.

Nah, rubbish. What's up with you tonight?

 

[LamieRobertson]

3/2 City..should have got a player sent off earlier

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Wow what a grandstand end

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Justice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lf0A3JuxjU

 

[LamieRobertson]

Justice.

For the Manchester ten?

 

[Steve in Japan]

I really enjoyed Athletico v Juve tonight. Why would you watch Citeh instead? Odd.

 

[drew]

Agree. Simple, only the captains can talk to the ref.

And mic the refs up so we can hear what is being said.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Easy 10]

That first penalty decision, in a nutshell, is the problem with VAR. Even after the benefit of the replays, you've got 2 distinct camps, some who believe it was a handball and a pen, and some that don't. Despite the benefit of multiple replays, you're still asking people to make subjective decisions when its by no means black and white.

What I would say is that on first viewing in realtime, the ref decided it was no pen. VAR is only supposed to get involved when there has been a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERROR. Was the original decision (no pen) CLEARLY wrong ? The fact that it took 3-4 minutes of deliberation by the VAR official suggests not. And the ref didn't even go over for another look himself.

In my opinion, that was a borderline decision. Seen them given, seen them not. So the VAR should've left well alone. But, we are where we are and there's no stopping it now.