[Albion] Van Hecke or Webster?

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

The lack of pace of Webster, Dunk, Milner and Gross makes us very vulnerable

This 1000% we need both full backs to be flying machines, considering we play a style that can only really be combated by sitting deep and springing the counter attack we’re not anywhere near close to being equipped to deal with it.

 

[Napper]

Webster has always been a liability . Even on his hood games he gives away stupid chances . Today was no shock

 

[Lethargic]

With what we have to play with currently...
Veltman, Van Hecke, Dunk, Estupinan

Which is not good enough for a team challenging up half of the Premier league.

 

[chickens]

We do look short of legs in the back line, Estupinan excepted.

Igor may improve things, Veltman is not massively pacy, but I trust him to get attacks stopped.

Perhaps we do need further reinforcements, all our pace suddenly seems very front loaded.

 

[mile oak]

after tonight VH

 

[Milano]

I was genuinely shocked at how shit Webster was today. At fault for all 3 goals and the one which clipped the bar. The 2nd goal being the worst IMO, terrible defending to stand off and just let the guy cross it.
He loses concentration, almost to the point of ball watching. Not a top 10 team EPL CB.
Surely RDZ rewatching that = dropped.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Surely Webster will not be keeping the shirt against Newcastle after today.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Webster was a liability today, i'm still not sure why Van Hecke was dropped, didn't think he did anything wrong v Luton, surely he must start v Newcastle.

 

[Hovegull]

Agree about Webster today.

 

[A1X]

Our attacking options look increasingly class. Our back line is looking extremely ropey frankly.

 

[Zeus]

Possibly Websters worst ever game in our shirt today. I also don’t understand Milner over Veltman at Right Back at all. Yes he chats but Veltman also brings a ton of experience and is a far better defender.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Still Webster for me, just a better player.

Today he wasn’t great, but defensively we were woeful. Milner was poor, as was Pervis in terms of defending.

The first goal, was a disaster for Webster tried to force a pass, and then instead of running the ball out, tried a ridiculous flick, which was stupid, but I bet he realises.

Edit - just seen goals. I don’t blame him on the second , if he goes for them challenge, he leaves the team exposed if he’s beaten, third just poor on his part. (First as I saw it at the time).

Our finishing today was more like a Potter team than a RdZ team, we can congratulate their keeper on a great performance, but most of the shot were near to him.

All in all very disappointing.

Why no option for Igor?

 

[Oh_aye]

The lack of pace of Webster, Dunk, Milner and Gross makes us very vulnerable

That vulnerability (even prior to milner) was hugely covered by the legs and tackling of Caicedo and Mac to an extent.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Possibly Websters worst ever game in our shirt today. I also don’t understand Milner over Veltman at Right Back at all. Yes he chats but Veltman also brings a ton of experience and is a far better defender.

Yeh, I think that's the worst he's played for us

 

[maltaseagull]

Webster was a liability today, i'm still not sure why Van Hecke was dropped, didn't think he did anything wrong v Luton, surely he must start v Newcastle.

On the club website video of training, he looked to be feeling his thigh perhaps a strain?

 

[zefarelly]

I can't help thinking todays starting hash was for two reasons . . . Rest and rotate players for obvious reasons, but mostly to highlight that if you want to compete top 10 and Europe you need better than a few we had today, especially as we've lost 3, hae several crocks, and still have weaklnesses As well as uncovered areas. Gross cannot patch up everything all season . . . Especially with Euro games coming up.

I've no doubt the club are working hard, hopefully today is the alarm bell they needed to work as hard behind the scenes as is necessary to get us at least as strong as we were last season, which I don't think we currently are in defence or midfield. We've finally got our strikers . . . But less behind them

 

[studio150]

Igor may improve things,

I can only assume you were not at the Amex friendly when Igor came on. Looks like he would be beaten in a straight race by Gross

 

[Dave the hatosaurus]

Still Webster for me, just a better player.

Today he wasn’t great, but defensively we were woeful. Milner was poor, as was Pervis in terms of defending.

The first goal, was a disaster for Webster tried to force a pass, and then instead of running the ball out, tried a ridiculous flick, which was stupid, but I bet he realises.

Our finishing today was more like a Potter team than a RdZ team, we can congratulate their keeper on a great performance, but most of the shot were near to him.

All in all very disappointing.

Why no option for Igor?

"today he wasn't great"! you are right there, he was very very poor.
In a game like today the first goal is so important and for him to gift them their first with two errors like that was shocking. The thing i cannot get my head round is the second error when surely it was the simplest task just to knock the ball out so we could regroup. Maybe he does now realise it but to me he should have known that already, it was basic defending was it not?

 

[WhingForPresident]

I can only assume you were not at the Amex friendly when Igor came on. Looks like he would be beaten in a straight race by Gross

Not basing it on anything but I just get the feeling Igor is going to be error prone and not up to it. I haven't even seen him play beyond that game, just a gut feeling.

 

[GT49er]

Dunk didn't try a stupid flick and get on the wrong side for the other two goals. Webster was awful. The way we play requires our defenders to be on their game, Webster was playing a different level.

The way we play - especially against a team that plays two banks of four and occasionally breaks effin' fast - requires us to have very quick defenders, CBs as well as the FBs. Even Dunk's place could be under threat unless we - sorry, de Zerbi - can work out a way to counter old style managers (who just maybe know a thing or two about what they're doing - not quite such dinosaurs after all!) like Dyche and Moyes.