[NSC] Vaccine passport required to enter Amex

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Slightly bonkers to think that as things stand, in 3 weeks time you can bring Covid with you to the Amex unchecked, but not a flask.

Whereas Chelsea will let you bring a flask but not Covid.

I know there's mixed opinions on passports but not enforcing them from the off seems very un Barber like

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[Carrot Cruncher]

I know. It’s starting to choke the board up a bit.


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Makes you feel like throttling someone.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Would a note from my mum be okay?

Ask [MENTION=34997]Your Mum[/MENTION] ?

 

[dazzer6666]

And what happens when the app doesn't play ball? I downloaded the app a while back and checked that it showed my vaccination status - all good then. Off the back of reading this thread I just went into the app and although all of the other services are working fine if I try 'Get your NHS COVID Pass' then I just get a 'Login failed' message. I'd be pretty pissed off if the crapness of the app stops me getting into the ground

When it is working, I'd recommend you take a screenshot, download a pdf and get an email (all of which you can do from the app itself) - the app plus 3 backup options should cover a nightmare scenario even Prof Ferguson would baulk at predicting.

Posted this before, but they were doing these checks at the Open Golf a couple of weeks ago. Vast, vast majority were very quickly through - only a view seemed to have not read the dozens of email reminders, warnings on the website, signs in the car park, signs on the buses etc etc before getting to the gate and were trying to download at the gate. There was only one entrance, the QR/jab check was a way ahead of the main turnstile. It was no hassle at all and didn't hold up entry much.

Also, the QRC was only glanced at and wasn't checked against anything else (not the entry ticket or any other form of ID) so I could have shown a screenshot of anyone's - it was basically a waste of time in terms of a validation check. I would expect checks to be more rigorous going forward (particularly if they are actually scanned)

 

[Half Time Pies]

I haven't a problem with any of the Covid passport stuff to show that you're double jabbed by having a unique QR code on your phone.

However I can't get my head around showing the result of a lateral flow test that you have self-administered.
Isn't this worthless, a bit like making yourself the examiner of your own driving test?

What could possibly go wrong?

Do you think someone would take the test and still go even though they had a positive result?

 

[Half Time Pies]

And what happens when the app doesn't play ball? I downloaded the app a while back and checked that it showed my vaccination status - all good then. Off the back of reading this thread I just went into the app and although all of the other services are working fine if I try 'Get your NHS COVID Pass' then I just get a 'Login failed' message. I'd be pretty pissed off if the crapness of the app stops me getting into the ground

You only have to access the app once before you attend the ground, just take a screen shot of the pass and show that, no drama!

 

[beorhthelm]

Do you think someone would take the test and still go even though they had a positive result?

defiantly some will. that's why evidence of jab is a better approach, even if have Covid less likely to pass on.

 

[METALMICKY]

The NHS app have a QR code to show covid status, and there is suggestion Premier League clubs will get access to that database to verify QR codes when scanned

Yes that seems the sensible process. And people before the match can download the QR as an offline copy so they don't need to faff about having a data connection. People will have to remember that the code Harvard validity period.

Of course this is the nice theory. In reality sadly I still think it could be an operational nightmare. Some non tech people just won't get it. You will be relying on the club's scanner working quickly first time. And at same time the scanning of the men mobile phone match ticket will need to work OK. Delayed kick offs here we come!

 

[dazzer6666]

Slightly bonkers to think that as things stand, in 3 weeks time you can bring Covid with you to the Amex unchecked, but not a flask.

Whereas Chelsea will let you bring a flask but not Covid.

I know there's mixed opinions on passports but not enforcing them from the off seems very un Barber like

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I bet an announcement is coming...can't believe all clubs won't be doing the same thing. The vast majority of people in the ground will be jabbed anyway, so no even sure what real value of the Covid pass offers (anyone still more likely to pick it up at home/in the shops etc). It'll be done away with after a few weeks I reckon.

 

[Jay White]

Shouldn't that be data protected? What's the difference between football clubs and concerts, night clubs, restaurants, pubs and then onto busses and taxis.

Start of a slippery slope if so imo.

what if you don't have a mobile smartyphone? AND i pose the question if the club insist of masks to watch the football except for eating drinking (reminder to self bring loads of chewing gum im eating for 90 minutes) what will happen after the game (and before) massive crowds huddle together queue for trains on trains and no masks required there ppl will smoke and so any exposure minimised at the ground is maximised outside. I therefore ask do the club have a (if only moral) responsibility to fans entering/leaving the ground or have they covered their backsides inside?

I realise there is a limit to what the club can do but i think its a valid considertion if it can only be that and little if any practicality beyond.

 

[Albion Dan]

I honestly think the Government are going to u turn on all this at the last minute. Huge backbench rebellion on the issue and both other parties voting against.

Make no mistake that the Vaccine Passport will mean that forever more you will have to show an ID to do most things in life. Covid is going nowhere and everyone will have to prove they have had their latest jabs year on year to do anything where people gather. In a world where 90% of people already have antibodies and tests can prove you are healthy. I'm just amazed that people cannot see the world that is getting ushered in through a vaccine trojan horse.

 

[dazzer6666]

I honestly think the Government are going to u turn on all this at the last minute. Huge backbench rebellion on the issue and both other parties voting against.

Make no mistake that the Vaccine Passport will mean that forever more you will have to show an ID to do most things in life. Covid is going nowhere and everyone will have to prove they have had their latest jabs year on year to do anything where people gather. In a world where 90% of people already have antibodies. I'm just amazed that people cannot see the world that is getting ushered in through a vaccine trojan horse.

It'll be gradually binned off as soon as the vast majority have had their two jabs and things appear under control - won't be necessary as get to live with the virus. Might still be needed for international travel for a long time though.

 

[Meade's Ball]

Would a note from my mum be okay?

As long as your mum is Dr Xand van Tulleken

 

[Jay White]

Slightly bonkers to think that as things stand, in 3 weeks time you can bring Covid with you to the Amex unchecked, but not a flask.

Whereas Chelsea will let you bring a flask but not Covid.

I know there's mixed opinions on passports but not enforcing them from the off seems very un Barber like

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my Hairdresser is accepting ppl without masks. Anyway whats a barber got to do with this?

 

[Your Mum]

Would a note from

your mum

be okay?

Yes

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

You only have to access the app once before you attend the ground, just take a screen shot of the pass and show that, no drama!

Have you actually tried to do that? Might just be my Omsung Phine but trying to take a screenshot from ANYWHERE in the NHS app, when logged in, gives a message 'Can't take screenshot due to security policy'

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

My view is that the club owes a duty of care to it's matchday staff and paying punters to try to mitigate the risks as much as possible.

I support the idea of proving vaccination as a condition of entry.

In any case, this should be done at government level as the risks of mass transmission at football grounds will be the same wherever

 

[1066familyman]

Never has the term, binfest, been more called for than now. Yet curiously the term seems to have fallen out of fashion.

Weird.

 

[Jay White]

I bet an announcement is coming...can't believe all clubs won't be doing the same thing. The vast majority of people in the ground will be jabbed anyway, so no even sure what real value of the Covid pass offers (anyone still more likely to pick it up at home/in the shops etc). It'll be done away with after a few weeks I reckon.

this is why i posted the thread because i believe it is coming. Even though majority may be double jabbed we have lots of kids and young supporters so my guess is anything up to 20% wont be jabbed - do the maths and anyone of those Johnson graphs showing the spread and what chance of anyone seeing the second home game of the season?
PS thanks for PM very helpful

 

[nickbrighton]

lets all get stressed about a process that hasn't been confirmed to be taking place yet, and assume the worst scenario will definitely happen, rather than wait until the club have announced what the procedure will be, and any "back up" plans they may have for those unable to comply with whatever the process will be.

After all the club have screwed up all the covid plans put in place so far for the test events, the prem games they have had fans into, and all the rest of the changes such as mobile tickets havent they?

The NHS app has provided tens and tens of thousands of people with the pass so far,all at the same time for test events, Ive just checked and it took less than 10 seconds from opening the app to get the QR Pass on my screen

As far as I can see, so far the club has done everything it can with COVID Protocols, and all successfully. There have been a minimal amount of issues with ticketing on mobiles, but in all honesty probably no more than they would normally get with paper tickets or plastic cards fouling up on the day

Give the club a chance to get this right before having a hissy fit- they have a great record so far, there is nothing to make us think the next stage wont also go as well as all the rest