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[News] US Supreme Court strikes down New York law on gun carrying rights.



Titanic

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61915237

The US Supreme Court has struck down a New York law restricting gun carrying rights.

The law required residents who want a licence to prove "proper cause" to carry concealed weapons and that they faced "a special or unique" danger.

The 6-3 decision stated the requirement violates the Constitutional right to bear arms.

The ruling jeopardises similar restrictions in other states and expands gun rights.

Justice Clarence Thomas, writing for the six-justice conservative majority on the court, held that Americans have a right to carry "commonly used" firearms for personal defence.

The Second Amendment right to bear arms is not a "second class" constitutional right subject to greater restrictions "than other Bill of Rights guarantees," he wrote.

The liberal justices Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer dissented.

:nono:
 






PILTDOWN MAN

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Nutters.
 




Greg Bobkin

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There's no hope for that country.

The only way anything is likely to change is if one of the supreme court or a senior politician is shot and killed. But, even then, I doubt it would be enough of an issue to even contemplate thinking about gun reform/control.
 








SeagullinExile

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Up to them really. It’s their country.
 




A1X

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What a ****ed up country
 


Lyndhurst 14

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I think that this outcome had been anticipated.

Although unrelated, it is also expected that SCOTUS will shortly overturn the landmark abortion case of Roe v Wade
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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If you are Republican the Supreme Court has to be seen as Trump's biggest success. I imagine there are a fair number who think the short term pain of the rest of his presidency was worth it for the long term gain of that 6-3 Supreme Court split. America is going to be culturally Republican for a long while yet.
 




el punal

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In 2020 there were 45,222 gun related deaths in the USA with a population of 330 million.In Europe, the E.U. estimate that there are 6,700 gun related deaths each year. The population of Europe is 748 million.

I’ll leave it there. :shrug:
 


southstandandy

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It's amazing that just because it was in the 'constutuion' a couple of hundred years ago, doesn't necessarily make it right in the modern time we live. America - things can be changed. You don't have to live in the past forever.

I love visiting the States, but as others have said something is wrong when you can buy a lethal weapon at 18 but they go nuts if you try to buy a beer at the same age. Priorities?
 






Badger

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Having a politically motivated supreme court is possibly the dumbest part of the dumbest political system.

A country with so many great people, who've done so many great things, totally hamstrung by a minority of deeply conservative people with ridiculously outdated views.
 


WATFORD zero

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You either want to stop large numbers of young children being slaughtered by nutters with guns and would do everything you can to stop it. Or you don't.

There really is no in between :shrug:
 


Neville's Breakfast

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Absolute loonies. Doesn’t this make them legally culpable for the next mass shooting ? It also makes the job of the police ridiculously difficult and they will become even more trigger happy themselves. A vicious cycle.
 


Acker79

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They've also struck down a ruling means police no longer need to read miranda rights, and are allowing republican lawmakers to intervere in a litigation to defend a voter ID law.

Democrats have the presidency, the house and the senate and are not doing enough with it. Rpublicans have the supreme court and are implementing everything their side want. As above, abortion rights are expected to be next.
 




Stat Brother

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"well regulated" appears to have been forgotten...








...again.
 


Badger Boy

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Why are people on this thread pretending that 6 people on the Supreme Court speak for the 300+million Americans? They don't. It's the opinion of 6 Conservative Justices, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less. If there were more liberals on the Court, then it would have gone the other way. The Supreme Court is not democratic. The Senate is not democratic. The United States of America is not a particularly democratic country.
 


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