[News] Urgent safety plea after 8 deaths in just 5 days on London's roads

[Stat Brother]

Five motorcyclists, an elderly woman pedestrian and a car driver have also been killed since Sunday, taking the total number of road deaths to 64 this year.

They include 16 motorbike or scooter riders, many of them young Londoners, and 37 pedestrians. Last year road deaths fell to a record low of 110.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tra...in-just-5-days-on-londons-roads-a4183196.html

 

[studio150]

ignore wrong stats

 

[Stat Brother]

Post now removed as incorrect.

Try not to get your news from Trump, he'll make you look like a liar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48186035

There has been one fatal stabbing every 1.45 days so far this year in England and Wales. If killings continued at that rate for the rest of the year, the total would be slightly lower than the 285 stabbing deaths recorded in 2017-18.

Thirty of the fatal stabbings were in London, 10 in Greater Manchester and eight in the West Midlands.

 

[studio150]

Try not to get your news from Trump, he'll make you look like a liar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48186035

There has been one fatal stabbing every 1.45 days so far this year in England and Wales. If killings continued at that rate for the rest of the year, the total would be slightly lower than the 285 stabbing deaths recorded in 2017-18.

Thirty of the fatal stabbings were in London, 10 in Greater Manchester and eight in the West Midlands.

I had already corrected before your post, thanks

 

[Gazwag]

Don't let motorcyclists on the road with L plates unless they are having lessons would be a start, make them pass their test first.

 

[Stat Brother]

I had already corrected before your post, thanks

I'll hazard a guess there are plenty who would assume your original statement to be correct.

I only knew you were very wrong because [MENTION=22389]bashlsdir[/MENTION] made the exact same point, last week.
Unsurprisingly he didn't reply when shown just how wrong he'd been.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Not a comment on these specific incidents obviously, as I know nothing of the details. But from what I observe as I drive around:

1. The standard of driving / consideration for other road users seems to have deteriorated quite markedly over the past 5 years or so. Also I still see plenty of motorists using phones whilst driving, or even wearing headphones.

2. The number of cyclists I see wearing headphones / earphones whilst riding (or even holding and looking at their phone) is staggering and frankly pretty much like writing your own death certificate.

Put the above two factors together on the same piece of road at the same time and hey presto - multiple road deaths.

 

[Stat Brother]

Not a comment on these specific incidents obviously, as I know nothing of the details. But from what I observe as I drive around:

1. The standard of driving / consideration for other road users seems to have deteriorated quite markedly over the past 5 years or so. Also I still see plenty of motorists using phones whilst driving, or even wearing headphones.

2. The number of cyclists I see wearing headphones / earphones whislt riding (or even holding and looking at their phone) is staggering and frankly pretty much like writing your own death certificate.

Put the above two factors together on the same piece of road at the same time and hey presto - multiple road deaths.

Deffo.

I'll add to that the levels of safety that us car drivers enjoy goes someway to creating a feeling of invincibility, cocooned as we are in our luxury safe space.

Those numbers would suggest possibly only 1 or 2 of the fatalities come from behind the wheel (I assume because you can't get to life threatening speeds in London)



Only this morning, in my village, a Jewson's flat back lorry steamed (I genuinely mean steamed) through a red light.
Perhaps the driver was distracted, perhaps he just missed the light, maybe he was late I don't know, but anyone watching the lights and trying to nip across the road during the change in sequence would have been killed.
Luckily no one was.
Everything is fine.
The driver will have 'got away with one'.

But one day he might not.

 

[ferring seagull]

Deffo.

I'll add to that the levels of safety that us car drivers enjoy goes someway to creating a feeling of invincibility, cocooned as we are in our luxury safe space.

Those numbers would suggest possibly only 1 or 2 of the fatalities come from behind the wheel (I assume because you can't get to life threatening speeds in London)



Only this morning, in my village, a Jewson's flat back lorry steamed (I genuinely mean steamed) through a red light.
Perhaps the driver was distracted, perhaps he just missed the light, maybe he was late I don't know, but anyone watching the lights and trying to nip across the road during the change in sequence would have been killed.
Luckily no one was.
Everything is fine.
The driver will have 'got away with one'.

But one day he might not.

Did you phone their transport department ?

Edit ! - I suppose it's about corroboration so ignore that !

 

[Funnell]

Don't let motorcyclists on the road with L plates unless they are having lessons would be a start, make them pass their test first.

Disagree, the frequency of claims for drivers on provisional licences is very low for both motorcyclists and car users. You'll find insurance premiums whilst learning are very cheap and sky rocket once drivers pass their tests.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Don't let motorcyclists on the road with L plates unless they are having lessons would be a start, make them pass their test first.

It's the scooter kids on their pizza deliveries and such that are the dangerous ones, generally those on powerful bikes are considerate road users (in town). Scooters and cyclists, just incredibly dangerous and unaware of their surroundings in London.

 

[vegster]

Don't let motorcyclists on the road with L plates unless they are having lessons would be a start, make them pass their test first.

Would likely make no difference, I had a bike and passed my full MC licence years back but what lots of Motorcyclists do these days on the road is mental. It's only a matter of time before they come unstuck and on a bike that's a bad thing.

 

[Stat Brother]

Did you phone their transport department ?

Edit ! - I suppose it's about corroboration so ignore that !

Oh I'm damn sure had I phoned Mr Jewson would have taken my complaint very seriously, but as said, there's plenty of reasons why it could have happened, no harm done, and I'm a firm believer in 'we're all entitled to screw up, so why make a bad situation worse'.



I've only ever done that once and that was years ago.
I was cycling between Northbrook and the Sussex Yeoman.
A lorry slowed, then overtook me, giving me plenty of room.

Unfortunately he gave me so much room he had the perfect angle to turn left at the Yeoman roundabout.

He took the road away from me, had I not launched myself onto the pavement I'd have been under his wheels, I could have touched them, at the crucial point.

The transport manager got both barrels from me, when I finally got to work.
Then half an hour later the driver called me to humbly apologise.

 

[Stat Brother]

Don't let motorcyclists on the road with L plates unless they are having lessons would be a start, make them pass their test first.

It's the scooter kids on their pizza deliveries and such that are the dangerous ones, generally those on powerful bikes are considerate road users (in town). Scooters and cyclists, just incredibly dangerous and unaware of their surroundings in London.

Would likely make no difference, I had a bike and passed my full MC licence years back but what lots of Motorcyclists do these days on the road is mental. It's only a matter of time before they come unstuck and on a bike that's a bad thing.

Yep definitely nothing to do with cars.

 

[vegster]

Yep definitely nothing to do with cars.

Here we go again.....and again... and again. Change the record SB ffs

 

[Stat Brother]

Here we go again.....and again... and again. Change the record SB ffs

Odd.

 

[Acker79]

ignore wrong stats

Too true.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Yep definitely nothing to do with cars.

If you ever witness around Hammersmith Broadway, Hammersmith Road, around Kensington High Street at peak hours, you may understand where I'm coming from.

 

[Chicken Run]

Move the driving age to 21

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If you ever witness around Hammersmith Broadway, Hammersmith Road, around Kensington High Street at peak hours, you may understand where I'm coming from.

Shepherd's Bush?