Fiskmås
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Fati was coming back from an offside position, wasn't he? I have to look at it again, but when it happened my reaction was "Oh, what a pro that Welbeck, that didn't fall for the temptation to pass offside Ansu."
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[Albion] Underrated Welbeck
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I think that's it. If he'd known Fati was there, surely he'd have squared it.
Easy to play the pass when you're watching but these things happen quickly.
Sheebo
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Only he will know that - didn’t seem to look up
I thought the same re: offside
You’re right. If he’d squared it and Fati was offside/missed/didn’t get to it, everyone would slate Welbeck for not having a shot. Poor finish but that happens all the time for all sorts of players. People watch too many highlights.
albionalex
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I don't believe Fati would have been offside as it would have been the 2nd phase of play.
Fati wasn’t even close to being offside (at the point that Welbeck shot) - he was well behind the ball.
Whether he was or wasn’t offside when the ball was passed to Welbeck is completely irrelevant
He wouldn’t have been, really poor by Welbeck.
- Oct 12, 2022
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It wasn’t Welbeck’s greatest night, but he didn’t have the benefit of watching a slowed down replay several times.
He was busting a lung taking the ball toward the opposition goal, and clearly thought he had the angle he needed.
I don’t want to go back to the Potter days of everyone passing it around among themselves and declining to take a shot.
He was busting a lung taking the ball toward the opposition goal, and clearly thought he had the angle he needed.
I don’t want to go back to the Potter days of everyone passing it around among themselves and declining to take a shot.
Didn’t clock an offside. Just reacting to what others had said - doesn’t really change the point about the Welbeck pile on.Fati wasn’t even close to being offside (at the point that Welbeck shot) - he was well behind the ball.
Whether he was or wasn’t offside when the ball was passed to Welbeck is completely irrelevant
albionalex
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FWIW, even without that chance, I think he was poor.
Strikers instinct. He wanted the goal and maybe new Fati was off sideOnly he will know that - didn’t seem to look up
Nobby Cybergoat
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Welbeck knew Fati was there. He just decided he wanted the chance. If you do that, you simply must score. He didn't, he played pretty poorly all night and must surely pay with his place
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The thing is, it’s Sliding Doors isn’t it?
Perhaps Ferguson would have scored twice, perhaps he’d have got injured in the first ten minutes.
The coach knows what he’s asked of each player, we don’t.
I’m of the opinion our attacking players barely got a sniff until about five/ten minutes before half-time, I don’t think it really mattered who was up top for the first 40 minutes, they didn’t get the ball.
I’m not convinced Welbeck is our best attacking option any more, but I’m not going to criticize him for having a pop at goal given our lack of opportunities before that point.
If it had gone in, we’d be lauding his brilliance, he wasn’t far away. All we can do is support the team that’s out there.
nwgull
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This is what I thought, but when is he then back in play? Does he have to retreat behind the 2nd last defender again, or is it play on once Welbeck is past him? I genuinely don’t know the rule here!
Poor?? Welbeck was awful this evening.
Surely he is 'back in play' as soon as he is behind the ball. He is onside at the moment the ball is (or should have been) played to him.
An analogy would be if he was in an offside position when the ball was played to Welbeck - then a defender stepped between him and the keeper. He would then be onside. There's no difference.