Uncle Spielberg's France V England Observations

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You have stated I am privately educated and in low-grade work...you have also suggested I am working-class and reasonably affluent. You are also suggesting I am a failure and a prick.

A number of people dont agree with me on here, a number of people do. But what I will say is that folk like Uncle S, Uncle Buck and Steward 433 at least offer debate and a bit of keyboard sparring and measured response. You dont seem to be able to do this. You simply dish out a load of nonsense about my life and call me names.

I dont say anything offensive, I just have some ideas about my football and my country. I lived abroad for 6 months and watched a lot of football for 6 months. This has formed some ideas I have. Uncle S has been musing over similar things. LC has highlighted things. These are simply thoughts and ideas based, in my case, on experience. It isnt because I am bitter about something or that I am a failure. Agree or disagree but please come back with reason. If anyone is appearing bitter it is you.

you obviously didnt read my post i said you peddle spiteful prejudice about people who arent of your ilk, i.e working class and reasonably affluent, and i find a lot of what you say about this admittedly far from perfect country very offensive , my assumption that you are a failure is based on the fact that nobody could be so bitter and angry about this country if they were reasonably successful in life , you dont sound like you are .

 

[NMH]

Fair enough but its not quite as simple as just popping on the next ferry to go and live there is it.

Walls begin in the mind US. Popping on the next ferry to go and live there, is a splendid way to start getting over the 'wall'.

The thing is though, the more you actually know and live in another country, the more the lacey dreamworld that was your holiday conceptualization of what a country is like, is blown aside. You would realise that there are new foibles and old familiar ones that exist in that new world. You will get into the society and learn what they actually also complain about (recall the French riots? Burning cars?). They complain vehemently, they have their own social issues and immigrant problems (Marseilles is dominated by North African/Arabic). The Parisians are sometimes arrogant and infuriating, and they'll exhibit racism against you for being English quick enough!

Why not try it for a few months? It's EEC ffs, you are entitled to live and work freely in the EEC, and you might notice that many from the EEC come here and do it on a whim.

 

[NMH]

My dream would be to take it easy and get a place in the Lake District, my favourite place in the World and beats anything France can offer or anywhere else I just love it there.

I was just up there last weekend - drove up. I didn't actually visit a single lake this time, roaming in the hills and only popping into Keswick to eat Chinese and shop a bit. It rules. Walks in the forest with the dog, spotting animal footprints and wild mushrooms (saw the infamous death-cap!), browsing arty shops with local potters and painters' works, cobbled streets and stone cottages, winding lanes and rambling slate walls that must have taken lifetimes to build.

Oh - and noting a previous comment - it rained a bit, but being wild countryside it wasn't in the least-bit "grim". Cities and chavvy suburbias are grim in all weathers.

 

[Trufflehound]

If standard of the local totty was the benchmark for any country's liveability, I think I'd move to Denmark.

Sorry for bouncing an old thread, but I need to revise that statement.



I've just come back from Slovakia...