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Ulloa wants out?



sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
13,268
Hove
Read back over some of the comments on this thread and you'll see what I mean. If the price is right and he wants to go, I would sell him but people seem to be assuming we'll replace him easily, which I don't think is true.

We will struggle to replace him unless we can afford to get someone like Rhodes in.

If he leaves, whatever the fee, I think it will be quite a grim season.
 




perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,461
Sūþseaxna
A few foreign strikers have been offered for sale at £7 million and I don't think they are as good as Ulloa. Similar w/o the heading ability. I don't think we are getting the best out of him. Instead of falling over he should be barging the defenders over and making himself even more awkward to play against. I don't think we are getting the best out of Lualua and Buckley either.
 


perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,461
Sūþseaxna
Looked like Argentina could have done with him!
 


dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
5,161
If the club wants to keep him, maybe they could offer him an improved contract like Rooney and Suarez recently to tempt him to stay for another season.
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,777
Probably a little unfair. There are plenty of NSCers with a decent knowledge of the game.

How many have actually bought a professional player on the clubs behalf? That's what I was driving at rather than knowledge of the game. It's more experience of the ins and outs of actually signing someone.
 




Meade's Ball

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Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
I don't Ulloa to go for any price. These criticisms of him seeming half-hearted and rolling around on the floor all second half of the season i find ludicrous. He was a one-man frontline expected to be everywhere at once and at all times out-leap and out-muscle TWO central defensive titans. And through these constant enormous battles he still scored a hatful whilst being without the touch and spring he had before his foot broke. He is not easy to replace. Not impossible, but not easy at all to find that level of striker again without paying all we get for him.
 


Lifelong Supporter

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Aug 4, 2009
2,104
Burgess Hill
I don't Ulloa to go for any price. These criticisms of him seeming half-hearted and rolling around on the floor all second half of the season i find ludicrous. He was a one-man frontline expected to be everywhere at once and at all times out-leap and out-muscle TWO central defensive titans. And through these constant enormous battles he still scored a hatful whilst being without the touch and spring he had before his foot broke. He is not easy to replace. Not impossible, but not easy at all to find that level of striker again without paying all we get for him.

Very much this.
 


withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
If the club wants to keep him, maybe they could offer him an improved contract like Rooney and Suarez recently to tempt him to stay for another season.

We've signed Rooney and Suarez ?

That's the last time I go away for a weekend.
 




Shatners bassoon

New member
Feb 15, 2012
6
If we were offered 7 million GBP I'd take it, but it would be a pity not to see him and CMS play together in a more attack minded formation. BTW, spoke to a Burnley fan at the weekend and they were raving about their 442 formation, but also said the team spirit was the driving force of the team. Not sure you can get that in a season (Dyche spent the first season there sorting out a leaky defence, which wasn't always exciting to watch)
 


Mental Lental

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Jul 5, 2003
2,299
Shiki-shi, Saitama
Probably a little unfair. There are plenty of NSCers with a decent knowledge of the game.

If I had to put a figure on it, I'd say roughly 70% of the posts I read on here are from demonstrably clueless, illiterate nimrods. About 20% are generally normal chaps who tend to get it right most of the time when they're not being overly emotional about the latest Albion related setback. The remaining 10% is made up of educated, literate posters that actually know something about football and have the ability to put their opinions across in a concise and well thought out manner.
 






Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
11,711
Bishops Stortford
If I had to put a figure on it, I'd say roughly 70% of the posts I read on here are from demonstrably clueless, illiterate nimrods. About 20% are generally normal chaps who tend to get it right most of the time when they're not being overly emotional about the latest Albion related setback. The remaining 10% is made up of educated, literate posters that actually know something about football and have the ability to put their opinions across in a concise and well thought out manner.

Let me guess what group you're in.
 


drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,614
Burgess Hill
Everyone seems to be blaming either the journalist for making up stories (!) or that Ulloa is unhappy. Could be his agent is trying to engineer something as an increase in Ulloa's wages would reflect in an increase in his fees, plus, of course, the inevitable signing on fee. Plus a chunk of whatever BHA have to pay him if he doesn't actually submit a transfer request!
 


darters74

New member
Jun 9, 2011
2,792
All over the place
If I had to put a figure on it, I'd say roughly 70% of the posts I read on here are from demonstrably clueless, illiterate nimrods. About 20% are generally normal chaps who tend to get it right most of the time when they're not being overly emotional about the latest Albion related setback. The remaining 10% is made up of educated, literate posters that actually know something about football and have the ability to put their opinions across in a concise and well thought out manner.

.....says Mental Lental !!!
 




spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
He was a one-man frontline expected to be everywhere at once and at all times out-leap and out-muscle TWO central defensive titans.

I think it's a more than reasonable criticism. Cast your mind back to the run in of the previous season and he was giving sides set up with 2 good centre backs a very hard time.

Last year he was kept quiet by some pretty poor units.

Yes, he might not have been 100% fit and perhaps teams had better plans to deal with him but undoubtedly he was less of a threat last season than he was the season before.
 


Meade's Ball

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
I think it's a more than reasonable criticism. Cast your mind back to the run in of the previous season and he was giving sides set up with 2 good centre backs a very hard time.

Last year he was kept quiet by some pretty poor units.

Yes, he might not have been 100% fit and perhaps teams had better plans to deal with him but undoubtedly he was less of a threat last season than he was the season before.

I thought he was more potent and on fire before the injury in the season just gone. The previous season he seemed to be asked to have more to his game than being an up-front-lump, stroking the ball around and playing some delightful passes in so many places around the pitch to onrushing midfielders and wingers, but his role seemed to be changed, along with the fact we had none of those forward-minded midfielders bursting through at will. He was about charging around all on his lonesome and getting his head on crosses delivered from a distance. I missed the Ulloa from before, but he seemed to be rather different under instruction. Then the injury happened and he could never reclaim the fitness he had at the season's start, alongside the fact that his role wasn't altered to deal with the broken foot and being rushed back too soon.
 


jamie the seagull

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Jul 27, 2011
2,803
If it really is our intention to play fast counter attacking football then Ulloa is not our man.
Better to sell and invest in players like Joe Mason (£1.5m) and Adam Clayton (£1m) who are available.
 


Footsoldier

Banned
May 26, 2013
2,904
If it really is our intention to play fast counter attacking football then Ulloa is not our man.
Better to sell and invest in players like Joe Mason (£1.5m) and Adam Clayton (£1m) who are available.

Just been reading on the Cardiff site about Joe Mason and not very complentary about him. A lot say he's to slow and to lightweight.
 






symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
Looking for new challenges does not equate to being unhappy and I have not read anywhere that he is. This tags him as being sulky, moody and disruptive, which I am certain he is not.
 


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