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Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,773
Fiveways
This is the most uncertain moment in the history of over 300 years of parliamentary history. We've basically had a two-party system for that period with Labour replacing the Liberals/Whigs as the rival of the Conservatives/Tories a century ago. Now we have a multi-party system with all of them all over the place:

Tories -- split down the middle and now have to try and piece together multiple deals internationally which they as a party (let alone those who transpire to be the negotiators) have no real experience of.

Labour -- unelectable baffoon with the strategic nous of a caterpillar at the helm, that has been decisively rejected by the core constituency that has dominated its century-plus history

UKIP -- its raison d'être has just been achieved

Lib Dems -- with eight MPs and policies miles apart from the electorate

SNP -- just announced it's for a second independence referendum less than two years after losing one by a 10% margin. Lose that one and the party's stardust will rub off

Plaid Cymru and the Greens -- not connecting with the electorate

We're in for a roller-coaster period. What will happen with the parties? Will there be mergers? Will there be new entrants? How much longer can the two-party-oriented FPTP sustain itself in such a multi-party framework?
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
UKIP have achieved UK Independence.


However, if their real aim was stopping / reducing EU immigration then they MAY be sorely disappointed with the EU Exit deal which is negotiated.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
This is the most uncertain moment in the history of over 300 years of parliamentary history. We've basically had a two-party system for that period with Labour replacing the Liberals/Whigs as the rival of the Conservatives/Tories a century ago. Now we have a multi-party system with all of them all over the place:

Tories -- split down the middle and now have to try and piece together multiple deals internationally which they as a party (let alone those who transpire to be the negotiators) have no real experience of.

Labour -- unelectable baffoon with the strategic nous of a caterpillar at the helm, that has been decisively rejected by the core constituency that has dominated its century-plus history

UKIP -- its raison d'être has just been achieved

Lib Dems -- with eight MPs and policies miles apart from the electorate

SNP -- just announced it's for a second independence referendum less than two years after losing one by a 10% margin. Lose that one and the party's stardust will rub off

Plaid Cymru and the Greens -- not connecting with the electorate

We're in for a roller-coaster period. What will happen with the parties? Will there be mergers? Will there be new entrants? How much longer can the two-party-oriented FPTP sustain itself in such a multi-party framework?

in peacetime
the grassroots Labour party love him
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,773
Fiveways
in peacetime
the grassroots Labour party love him

RE in peacetime: I'm referring to the future of our political parties
RE the grassroots: they may well do but there's only a few hundred thousand of those; we can quibble over precisely who the working class are (if such a classification is still relevant), but in terms of numbers who are legible to vote, they're in the tens of millions
 


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